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    I guess they should just get rid of the concept of FCs all together then if this is how we feel. Just keep the linkshell system so that we can still communicate with others.

    A lot of the response here is just folks throwing the excuse around oh but we dont want content being gated. I suppose the game itself is gated around paying a subscription. Or how the endgame is gated behind a lengthy msq or how gear is gated behind raiding.

    Anymore loose examples we can start throwing with crying about things being "gated" rather than wanting the devs to just create content for the sake of content huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I guess they should just get rid of the concept of FCs all together then if this is how we feel. Just keep the linkshell system so that we can still communicate with others.

    A lot of the response here is just folks throwing the excuse around oh but we dont want content being gated. I suppose the game itself is gated around paying a subscription. Or how the endgame is gated behind a lengthy msq or how gear is gated behind raiding.

    Anymore loose examples we can start throwing with crying about things being "gated" rather than wanting the devs to just create content for the sake of content huh?
    Creating content for the sake of content? Are you sure this is what this thread is asking for? To me it sounds more like creating content for the sake of requiring FCs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Creating content for the sake of content? Are you sure this is what this thread is asking for? To me it sounds more like creating content for the sake of requiring FCs.
    You and most here missed the point sadly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I guess they should just get rid of the concept of FCs all together then if this is how we feel. Just keep the linkshell system so that we can still communicate with others.
    Why getting rid of FC where so many people are running successful FC? Getting rid of it because a few can't spend the effort to keep theirs running?

    A lot of the response here is just folks throwing the excuse around oh but we dont want content being gated. I suppose the game itself is gated around paying a subscription. Or how the endgame is gated behind a lengthy msq or how gear is gated behind raiding.
    If there is a wikipedia with a "strawman" argument entry, I probably can cite this part as an example.

    The majority of content in FF14 are "open access" to all. Everything you listed can be achieved given enough time spent. Some takes more time than other, but eventually you can access it. There are only TWO type of content that are hardlocked currently:

    - Gardening.
    - FC workshop.

    The first requires you have to have a house, the second requires you to own an FC with a house or at least be in the upper echelon of the FC to access. And you can play for months and years and will never get any closer to to unlock these content unless you meet the requirement. And unless you haven't noticed, the community don't have a favorable view to those.

    ... Actually, there used to be a 3rd type content that was hardlocked behind FC: 3.0 Diadem. And guess what, it was so dead that they got rid of it after an expansion, and brought it back later as an "open" access. So ... true success story right there.


    Anymore loose examples we can start throwing with crying about things being "gated" rather than wanting the devs to just create content for the sake of content huh?
    Who said anything about not wanting more content? Even if you want, you can lock behind some of the content behind FC now. Like: map can only be done with FC members, Criterion is made into an FC only dungeon. The question you seem to missed is people asking: what's the point? So if SE came up with a new type of content, which I believe everyone will like, we simply against idea of arbitrary locking it behind FC.

    Like ... what's the point of limiting access to other players? And if your point is "so SE can help keep my FC alive that I don't want to spend the effort doing it myself", then people are just telling you that you have a bad point, not that they're against new content..
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 12-31-2022 at 04:56 AM.