Savage loot lockout should be removed when an ultimate is released

[GhostZukin]

Groups tend to disband and reform for when ultimates are released, yet in many cases as with yours truly, some of us might not be ready. We've cleared the savage fights many times before, but that doesn't necessarily mean we'll be geared up in time for the release of Omega if we have to switch jobs. If Square-Enix really wants us to experience the ultimates as genuine as possible, aka: right when they release, they really need to lower the arbitrary barriers to do so. Those of us who are capable of clearing the savages, have in fact, cleared it already, so what is there exactly to prove? That our RNG is perfect? That we had the patience to slog through weeks, maybe even months of one of by far, the most unfriendly tiers to PF?

[Jeeqbit]

Just because you cleared doesn't mean everyone did. There are casual statics. Tiers usually last around 6 months before getting unlocked like that.

[Oizen]

Just because you cleared doesn't mean everyone did. There are casual statics. Tiers usually last around 6 months before getting unlocked like that.

And what does this have to do with the lockout?

[Jeeqbit]

And what does this have to do with the lockout?

Everything. Removing the loot lockout when the tier is still in progress and people are still progging.

[ForteNightshade]

Everything. Removing the loot lockout when the tier is still in progress and people are still progging.

By that logic, the tier should never be unlocked prior to the release of a new one. After all, people are still progging 6-7 months into a Savage tier's lifecycle.

In actuality, unlocking the tier makes it easier for these players. They'll have a much larger pool of players in PF because the lack of a loot restrictions means those who have cleared can help without impacting coffer drops. Unlocking the tier doesn't stop prog any more than making Primal mounts purchasable stops people from farming them. That's just a silly argument.

Ultimate lockout is removed after one patch. And nothing bad happens because of it.

An even better example. Hell, UCoB and UwU are nearly six years old and still have people progging them to this day. Making it so you could technically farm every single weapon in a day or two didn't cheapen the experience for those who cleared when you could only get a token a week.

[Jeeqbit]

By that logic, the tier should never be unlocked prior to the release of a new one. After all, people are still progging 6-7 months into a Savage tier's lifecycle.

And by OP's logic, the tier should be unlocked immediately upon release. Because if midcore and casual statics don't need it then neither do the hardcore statics that clear it all week 1. If it exists for people who clear week 1 and reclear for 8 weeks straight only, then why shouldn't it exist for all the statics that take longer than that?

[Azuri]

Everything. Removing the loot lockout when the tier is still in progress and people are still progging.

Ultimate lockout is removed after one patch. And nothing bad happens because of it.

[DixieBellOCE]

Everything. Removing the loot lockout when the tier is still in progress and people are still progging.

week 15 prog btw kek

[Rolder50]

Just because you cleared doesn't mean everyone did. There are casual statics. Tiers usually last around 6 months before getting unlocked like that.

Removing the loot lockout earlier benefit basically everyone.

People who have cleared already can gear alt jobs easier.

People who are progging get a little boost in their speed if they want because more gear.

PF Groups are more active because people can clear multiple times a week and still get loot.

Really I can't think of a good reason to even have a loot lockout in the first place, aside from getting players to stay subbed longer.

Edit: I thought of another benefit. Players in statics can join pugs without screwing over their static in terms of coffers.

[technole]

Ultimates "never expire" since ilevel lock, but they also don't like to encourage people unsubbing from game so they don't unlock until two more patches after the .5 release. All done to keep subs instead of just re-subbing right when ultimate drops, and clear and farm savage gear in a day kind of things.