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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    One of the main reasons why i have the feeling that the devs actually despise MCH is that every adjustment or "fix" to the everlasting broken state of that job is just a increase of the wildfire potency. There is no real work done on the job, just always really minor potency increases which keeps MCH still far below most other jobs which are easier to play and reward with more damage. And there is always absolute silence from the devs side until enough people complain so they push out these silly little potency buffs.
    I stopped taking you seriously with this paragraph. MCH is the 2nd easiest DPS in the game with only SMN being easier. It DESERVES to be at the bottom rung of the DPS ladder
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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    I stopped taking you seriously with this paragraph. MCH is the 2nd easiest DPS in the game with only SMN being easier. It DESERVES to be at the bottom rung of the DPS ladder
    No it doesn't.
    you repeating it doesn't make it more true, either.
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    Ren Thras
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    I stopped taking you seriously with this paragraph. MCH is the 2nd easiest DPS in the game with only SMN being easier. It DESERVES to be at the bottom rung of the DPS ladder
    Difficulty is relative, which is why it should never be used for balance. Things like utility should be.

    I find MCH harder to play than SMN, RDM, and NIN. (You can call me crazy, but I remember the Mudras super easy with little stories in my head like "The cunning of Man" to know which one lets me cast Trick in combat and knowing that all that matters for Mudras is if they're 2 or 3 long and what the LAST one is - the first 1/2 don't matter - so I just get in a groove on NIN that I can't do as well with MCH). BLM is arguably one of the easiest DPS Jobs in the game in terms of rotation, it's just tricky to work that into boss mechanics that require movement. SAM is also pretty straighforward once you get it, making it pretty easy, too. And let's be real, with giant hitboxes and even omni-directional wall bosses and short CD 2 charge True North, it's not like Melee is starving for uptime or having difficulty with positionals these days. And most of their positionals have been either removed or had the damage loss by missing them minimized.

    Difficulty is relative.

    The problem is that you can't have a "selfish DPS" in a role that has a damage penalty. MCH should either do as much damage as at least RPR or something, OR is should offer utility more comparable to DNC and BRD.

    Imagine if you had a healer that had only Medica and Cure 1, but was a "selfish DPS" and did 500 more dps than the other healers. No one would take it to any raid. You'd be better off bringing a PLD or RDM at that point since they'd do comparable healing and even the PLD would be bringing more damage.

    I don't know what it needs, but one of the two - more damage or more utility/buffs. I've seen some people propose a combat raise (which would be a stealth buff to BLM since it would mean if you have a MCH you can possibly pass on a RDM/SMN), but I honestly don't know.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Difficulty is relative
    Yes, clearly. When people say "stop feeding the well-known troll", some find it a Savage-tier challenge.
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    Azuri's Avatar
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    Azuri Aeru
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Yes, clearly. When people say "stop feeding the well-known troll", some find it a Savage-tier challenge.
    It's the battle of the trolls. Let them fight.
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    Raoabolic's Avatar
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Yes, clearly. When people say "stop feeding the well-known troll", some find it a Savage-tier challenge.
    To be fair, most can't even pass the "Don't kill the early pulled the S rank" EX encounter, lol.
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