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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Looks like Jojoya was right. SE is finally going to adjust the split based on the needs of the particular world. A good move in my opinion. Looks like housing reform is finally coming, albeit very VERY slowly (I shan't look a gift horse in the mouth, however).
    I don't feel like this proves me right at all. All worlds that existed prior to 2022 are being treated the same regardless of population differences or variation in housing based activity.

    One thing that's both good and bad to see is SE allowing both FC and personal purchase in some wards. Good to see in that we now know for certain it is possible. Bad to see in that it's being done on the worlds where it will only complicate matters instead of improve things while it's not being done on the worlds where it could have created an improvement.

    I can only guess that SE feels that the majority of FC housing demand has been met and so this allows the majority of available housing to go toward those still trying to obtain a personal house. Those who have been creating shell FCs no longer have a noticeable advantage since they'll potentially be competing against dozens of personal buyers unless they enter in the FC only wards.

    Without having a clearer idea of how many players are still trying to obtain their first (or only) house, it's hard to say how this is going to turn out on most worlds.

    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    Wards 1-6 and 25 are FC only. That's plenty. And to be fair, FCs have had months to buy a plot at this point.
    That's true only on some worlds. Other worlds sold out on FC plots much earlier and more FCs have continued to be formed in the meantime.

    It's anyone's guess on how many FCs were formed back in November after the original announcement the new wards were coming.

    I'm glad I don't need to personally worry as I have what I want already but I feel bad for those who are going to be sitting on edge until we see how the first lottery after the ward addition turns out.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 12-27-2022 at 09:02 AM.

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    Reis Chrisch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I don't feel like this proves me right at all. All worlds that existed prior to 2022 are being treated the same regardless of population differences or variation in housing based activity.

    One thing that's both good and bad to see is SE allowing both FC and personal purchase in some wards. Good to see in that we now know for certain it is possible. Bad to see in that it's being done on the worlds where it will only complicate matters instead of improve things while it's not being done on the worlds where it could have created an improvement.

    I can only guess that SE feels that the majority of FC housing demand has been met and so this allows the majority of available housing to go toward those still trying to obtain a personal house. Those who have been creating shell FCs no longer have a noticeable advantage since they'll potentially be competing against dozens of personal buyers unless they enter in the FC only wards.

    Without having a clearer idea of how many players are still trying to obtain their first (or only) house, it's hard to say how this is going to turn out on most worlds.
    There are a lot of us. Only 2 of our FCs 13 members have personal housing, and pretty much all but 3 want to get personals. I have been bidding in every round and never won a damn thing whether it was against 200 people or 1. There are usually upwards of 700 bids on my world per round right now, and that's with many I know giving up who don't have a house and waiting for the new wards. I'm the only one of the 8 that has been bidding. I also know several other people on other worlds still trying for first house.
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    Personal Wards are getting reclassified to FC-only again even in the new servers where they aren't getting new wards.

    Edit: Ignore this post, I'm a dummy.
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    Last edited by SlackMage; 12-27-2022 at 01:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlackMage View Post
    Personal Wards are getting reclassified to FC-only again even in the new servers where they aren't getting new wards.
    Incorrect, not one single ward anywhere is getting converted from Free Companies only --> Private Buyers only.

    On older worlds wards 7 to 9 are switching from FC's to FC's plus Private, the effective effect there being to allow access to private buyers the still unclaimed smalls.

    Wards 10-20 are getting changed from Private Only to Private plus FC's.

    Those wards are already full and just means when demolition kicks in any plots that free up in those zones will be available for both FC's and personal, not that many FC's will bother competing for them as they still largely have smalls open in the lower wards they can get. Over the long haul, those wards will start to evolve into a mix of FC's and personal plots.

    Overall they are gradually adding access to the still unclaimed smalls in the lower wards to individuals, and even mediums and large plots if they demolish.

    About as good a changes to the wards as one can expect at this stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagget View Post
    Incorrect, not one single ward anywhere is getting converted from Free Companies only --> Private Buyers only.

    On older worlds wards 7 to 9 are switching from FC's to FC's plus Private, the effective effect there being to allow access to private buyers the still unclaimed smalls.

    Wards 10-20 are getting changed from Private Only to Private plus FC's.

    Those wards are already full and just means when demolition kicks in any plots that free up in those zones will be available for both FC's and personal, not that many FC's will bother competing for them as they still largely have smalls open in the lower wards they can get. Over the long haul, those wards will start to evolve into a mix of FC's and personal plots.

    Overall they are gradually adding access to the still unclaimed smalls in the lower wards to individuals, and even mediums and large plots if they demolish.

    About as good a changes to the wards as one can expect at this stage.
    Actually some are getting changed from FC to Private. On Dynamis and other new worlds like OCE and the new EU worlds, wards 10-12 are being changed from FC to Personal.

    But SlackMage is incorrect in that some wards are being reclassified to FC only, NO wards are being changed from Personal to FC only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagget View Post
    Incorrect, not one single ward anywhere is getting converted from Free Companies only --> Private Buyers only.

    On older worlds wards 7 to 9 are switching from FC's to FC's plus Private, the effective effect there being to allow access to private buyers the still unclaimed smalls.

    Wards 10-20 are getting changed from Private Only to Private plus FC's.

    Those wards are already full and just means when demolition kicks in any plots that free up in those zones will be available for both FC's and personal, not that many FC's will bother competing for them as they still largely have smalls open in the lower wards they can get. Over the long haul, those wards will start to evolve into a mix of FC's and personal plots.

    Overall they are gradually adding access to the still unclaimed smalls in the lower wards to individuals, and even mediums and large plots if they demolish.

    About as good a changes to the wards as one can expect at this stage.
    Oh I thought wards 7-9 were personal before for some reason oops.
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    This will certainly change my strategy for my Balmung shell FC. Before I thought I could afford to be bold in round 1 and still be guaranteed a small house in round 2 if that didn't work out. Now I think I'm just going to play it safe in round 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablomaldito View Post
    This will certainly change my strategy for my Balmung shell FC. Before I thought I could afford to be bold in round 1 and still be guaranteed a small house in round 2 if that didn't work out. Now I think I'm just going to play it safe in round 1.
    You are in Balmung, fellow comrade. There's so such thing as safe here. Either go big or go home like myself going for a LB-41!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeNada View Post
    You are in Balmung, fellow comrade. There's so such thing as safe here. Either go big or go home like myself going for a LB-41!
    What is wrong with LB-11? I'm happy with mine on Hali. And good luck if you're trying for that on Balmung.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    What is wrong with LB-11? I'm happy with mine on Hali. And good luck if you're trying for that on Balmung.
    There is a 90 degree difference in rotation between main division and subdivision. The front of LB-11 faces south while the front of LB-41 faces west. As a result, LB-41 gets lovely sunsets.


    LB-11 does have one advantage though - the moment someone enters the ward, they can swim straight to your house XD
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