Please stop removing Damage Over Time effects from every job, add more complexity

[Nizzi]

wait until you hear about people who think refreshing dots is complex

Thunder III is quite literally more complex than anything any other non-BLM job has

[Melethron123]

Thunder III is quite literally more complex than anything any other non-BLM job has

if you think forcing procs with an ogcd that holds 2 charges and has a cooldown equal to the dot's duration is complex, sure

[Shurrikhan]

if you think forcing procs with an ogcd that holds 2 charges and has a cooldown equal to the dot's duration is complex, sure

Sharpcast is clearly not what's being referred to. Thunder's complexity comes from the varying net value of the cast based on upcoming uptime.

And it, too, offered more complexity and agency in the past when you could use any of three durations and cast times in order to minimize lower-value time spent and maximize portion of higher-value time spent (e.g., within Astral Fire, or with old no-AF-refresh F4 spams, ARR quick-Flare, etc.) -- part of the reason why many requested it be turned into a quantized charged-up cast (e.g., charging up to a total of a 2.0, 2.5, or 3.0s cast), as seen in some other MMOs, instead of just being turned into a single option when its button count was consolidated.

[Nizzi]

if you think forcing procs with an ogcd that holds 2 charges and has a cooldown equal to the dot's duration is complex, sure

It's very telling when you try to be reductive instead of offering something you think is complex instead as a counterargument

[CelestiCer]

It's very telling when you try to be reductive instead of offering something you think is complex instead as a counterargument

Yea this Melethron seems to be having a ton of hot-takes everywhere... same goes on the DPS section =u=;

[Ransu]

Thunder III is quite literally more complex than anything any other non-BLM job has

I wouldn't say its complex, but its drifts pretty damn hard which makes timing when to refresh while dealing with enochian kind of annoying.