Problem with the new deep dungeon (Eureka Orthos)

[BristolRuss]

As someone with a mental disability, this really sucks. Telling me to touch grass, or just laughing at me because I asked for one quality of life improvement. You can fly to the deep dungeon directly for Palace of the Dead, and you can get to Heaven on High much quicker, but instead of just thinking about my suggestion, you all had to insult me. I'm reporting most of these comments, and honestly going to have to take a long shower, and try not to feel depressed.

This seriously affected me, and made me feel upset. How could you all be so cruel, and thoughtless. Did it ever occur to you that your negativity might be hurtful? :/ I am hugely embarrassed, frustrated, in tears, and just honestly all around not happy. You didn't have to agree with me, but you also didn't have to be so insulting.

I am furious. This feels like highschool bullshit, where you speak out and say something slightly wrong, so people just bully and laugh at your comment to its death. Just stop please. All I did was analyze the live letter, and make a point that you can't just get there quickly. YOSHI P LITERALLY DEMONSTRATED. It's literally on the far end outside of the map. I know this is a community that loves quality of life improvements, but instead you had to be rude, and make fun of my mental capabilities, and character, as if you haven't felt exhausted before while playing a video game when traveling a longer distance.

This is like the five stages of grief condensed into one post. When do we get to acceptance?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

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It is quite uncommon of me to agree with your views. While this thread is not one of those, you might want to ignore the arson. They're famous for derailing threads into flames and shifting all focus to themself.

[Iscah]

Is that little area actually instanced? There are other places where we need to get passed a closed gate without being a separate area.

Doesn't seem like it's a separate zone..,
though if one wanted to guess and create its own excuse. it's there to prevent lvl 50 flyers without the quest for CT progressed to enter the area.., or lore wise.., Get Reduced to Aether without the requisite crystal back and forth taken by a mischievous red cat. oh wait that last part doesn't exist like it used to anymore.

I think the practical reason is more specific than simply "keep people away from the tower until they're doing the questline", although that is the basic cause. The real issue is that the Mor Dhona zone is built with the sentinel statues already broken, and they are only seen intact (and then immediately smashed) in the cutscene when you first enter the area.

So that continuity issue seems to be the base reason for not allowing flying in that area, although you can still see them in the distance if you go to the right angle and know what you're looking at.

As for entering the deep dungeon, do we even know that we'll have to go to the tower entrance? I might have missed an announcement since I didn't watch the live letter in detail, but if I was the one setting up something like that, I'd probably put the entry NPC in Revenant's Toll or at least St Coinach's Find.


Also, I'm not sure what you mean about "that part of the questline not existing any more". All that was changed is that you don't need to wait for FATEs to obtain the crystals. The runabout for the aether sand is still intact.

[Sove92]

Not to mention that if the area's instanced, that's going to cause serious problems on launch, as many of us know all too well.

It's not instanced, you just can't go through the door before the questline takes you there.

[rainichan]

As someone with a mental disability, this really sucks. ...

It's not really needed, though. That's what I was getting at with my own comment. An extra 15 seconds of on-foot travel is not going to hurt anyone. It's not an entire map in a new area in a new expansion that we have to traverse on foot until we unlock all the aether currents which is a lot more frustrating than a no-enemy walk from the destroyed gate to the stairs.

On top of that, if it's an instanced area (or "instanced" for other reasons), that's likely why there's no flying there, it was just never added during their map reworks or. as others pointed out, to keep people out who hadn't unlocked the raid series. If it gets added later, great, but I don't think it will since we don't have true map layers locked to progress. The area's going to be turbo congested come 6.35 as it is, I don't want it being worse because of people blocking the NPC with their flying whale mounts in the air. It'll be irritating enough with people on their mounts on the ground as it is. You can mount up in there and it'll take more time dismounting and mounting back up tbh.

Sorry about your disabilities, but they aren't excuses, just explanations for things. I see your explanation and it makes sense for your initial post, but then to use it as an excuse to be rude to people is pretty gross. I have mental illnesses but I don't try to weaponize them to make people feel bad for being mean to me. I move on. This is a topic where you may have a few people agree but most are going to see it as a non-issue, because it really is a non-issue. If it's that bad of an issue for you, get into a party and someone else can go to the NPC for you and queue your group in since it'll probably act like the other two areas are: as long as you're on the map where the entrance is, you can queue. Problem solved.

[Zebraoracle]

It is quite uncommon of me to agree with your views. While this thread is not one of those, you might want to ignore the arson. They're famous for derailing threads into flames and shifting all focus to themself.

As much as I hate to say it, for once FireMage kind of actually has a point though. This is a shameful display that honestly makes me wonder if OP is just trolling. That initial meltdown post had me do a double take because I couldn't believe it was something I was actually reading.

[DamianFatale]

It is quite uncommon of me to agree with your views. While this thread is not one of those, you might want to ignore the arson. They're famous for derailing threads into flames and shifting all focus to themself.

I'll keep that in mind. Thank you for being kind to me despite not always agreeing with me. I really like that we could come together for peace. Especially on Christmas Eve. Happy Starlight.

[IkaraGreydancer]

As someone with a mental disability, this really sucks. Telling me to touch grass, or just laughing at me because I asked for one quality of life improvement. You can fly to the deep dungeon directly for Palace of the Dead, and you can get to Heaven on High much quicker, but instead of just thinking about my suggestion, you all had to insult me. I'm reporting most of these comments, and honestly going to have to take a long shower, and try not to feel depressed.

This seriously affected me, and made me feel upset. How could you all be so cruel, and thoughtless. Did it ever occur to you that your negativity might be hurtful? :/ I am hugely embarrassed, frustrated, in tears, and just honestly all around not happy. You didn't have to agree with me, but you also didn't have to be so insulting.

I am furious. This feels like highschool bullshit, where you speak out and say something slightly wrong, so people just bully and laugh at your comment to its death. Just stop please. All I did was analyze the live letter, and make a point that you can't just get there quickly. YOSHI P LITERALLY DEMONSTRATED. It's literally on the far end outside of the map. I know this is a community that loves quality of life improvements, but instead you had to be rude, and make fun of my mental capabilities, and character, as if you haven't felt exhausted before while playing a video game when traveling a longer distance.

I do not think the insults are OK but if you're this pressed about what randoms online who have no bearings on your life say, I suggest you stay off the internet.
Also claiming a mental illness generally doesn't matter to people online as many use that as a crutch to gain sympathy points. Just laying it out for ya man.

Last note long distance doesn't matter to me cause I set it to auto and the game flys/runs for me. To me personally this is a non issue

[DrexelHavoc]

I’ve soloed both current deep dungeons but if they are gonna gate the new one like this I’m out!

[SannaR]

I’ve soloed both current deep dungeons but if they are gonna gate the new one like this I’m out!

What are you calling a gate? It has the same kind of lock outs the other two have. Have X done and like HoH have lv 50 of PotD completed. Seeing who is part of the unlock quest it makes sense that you wouldn't be able to unlock this until post 6.0. At least from a lore perspective.