PLD changes; thoughts?

[Rithy255]

Wouldn't surprise me if they change POA to a circle effect around the PLD, and make it a traited upgrade of Veil, so POA would give 'Veil shield and 15% DR to allies', PLD having 2 raidwide mits has never mattered. Even back in SB when people wanted it over DRK, it wasn't cos it had 2 raidwide mits, it was because DRK had zero. It'd also free up a hotbar slot, which PLD is suffering for atm. They can also remove Shield Bash for that though (and probably will)

It matters to a extent, I also think theirs many ways to "remove" hot bar space without actually removing abilities, other then shield bash. I personally really wouldn't want them to remove POA and DV, but make them just more usable (right now they're a bit jank), I don't really think PLD needs any strong DPS boost above DRK/GNB, theirs always going to be two tanks that are meta due to damage and two tanks that aren't meta, I just don't think they necessary should take away any raid wide from PLD even if it "doesn't matter".

It makes the most sense if PLD in terms of numbers would still be behind DRK/GNB, because people will complain about DRK or GNB now needing a "buff", If PLD remains behind both I also see no issue in keeping a extra utility on it, I don't play Paladin to do slightly higher numbers then other tanks, I like it (partly) because it has stronger support, even if that support doesn't matter on clearing a fight.

[Marxam]

It matters to a extent, I also think theirs many ways to "remove" hot bar space without actually removing abilities, other then shield bash. I personally really wouldn't want them to remove POA and DV, but make them just more usable (right now they're a bit jank), I don't really think PLD needs any strong DPS boost above DRK/GNB, theirs always going to be two tanks that are meta due to damage and two tanks that aren't meta, I just don't think they necessary should take away any raid wide from PLD even if it "doesn't matter".

It makes the most sense if PLD in terms of numbers would still be behind DRK/GNB, because people will complain about DRK or GNB now needing a "buff", If PLD remains behind both I also see no issue in keeping a extra utility on it, I don't play Paladin to do slightly higher numbers then other tanks, I like it (partly) because it has stronger support, even if that support doesn't matter on clearing a fight.

I can definitely say from a glance it does have the potential to take 3rd place by a larger margin leaving WAR to possibly need a hotfix potency bump prior to 6.31. Of course this is all conjecture but people really don't understand how much 100% crit DH can ruin a jobs dmg ceiling potential. 900 potency before crit/DH is even calculated is no joke.

[Rithy255]

I can definitely say from a glance it does have the potential to take 3rd place by a larger margin leaving WAR to possibly need a hotfix potency bump prior to 6.31. Of course this is all conjecture but people really don't understand how much 100% crit DH can ruin a jobs dmg ceiling potential. 900 potency before crit/DH is even calculated is no joke.

I think it's likely that they're aiming for PLD to be slightly behind GNB/DRK due to its other benefits, like being able to give two raid wides and having utility, likely more sustain and access to holy shelltrons and interventions, both GNB and DRK are also apparently "hard" because they're more busy as well (Just going off what they think I really dont consider drk or gnb too much harder).

can't really use "pld lacks a personal" anymore, I even think PLD's got the second best personal (dark mind is usually the best even if it's really annoying).