PLD changes; thoughts?

[Gserpent]

Thrill not providing mitigation is partially compensated for via it also incorporating the old Convalescence effect - they need more healing, so they *receive* more healing too.

They also get Equilibrium, which is a powerful instant heal followed by a powerful regen effect. PLD isn't just missing a personal mitigation button, they're *also* missing the personal healing button too (because no PLD is using Clemency due to it being a substantial DPS loss. *Best* case scenario is it just replaces an Atonement...)

PLD will still be behind the curve if they haven't figured out something for Clemency or some other means of giving PLD more self-healing. Almost the entirety of their self-healing is contained in the Req window (8 actions at 400 potency each), so if their need for self-healing doesn't happen to coincide with when their Req window is coming up, they're up shit creek without a paddle. Meanwhile, WAR and GNB have powerful self-heals on a 60 sec cooldown, DRK has TBN on a 15 sec cooldown (instead of the ~25 of other tanks), more baseline mitigation due to Oblation charges, and for whatever it's worth they also have the most self-healing potency on their 1-2-3.

[Rithy255]

Thrill not providing mitigation is partially compensated for via it also incorporating the old Convalescence effect - they need more healing, so they *receive* more healing too.

They also get Equilibrium, which is a powerful instant heal followed by a powerful regen effect. PLD isn't just missing a personal mitigation button, they're *also* missing the personal healing button too (because no PLD is using Clemency due to it being a substantial DPS loss. *Best* case scenario is it just replaces an Atonement...)

PLD will still be behind the curve if they haven't figured out something for Clemency or some other means of giving PLD more self-healing. Almost the entirety of their self-healing is contained in the Req window (8 actions at 400 potency each), so if their need for self-healing doesn't happen to coincide with when their Req window is coming up, they're up shit creek without a paddle. Meanwhile, WAR and GNB have powerful self-heals on a 60 sec cooldown, DRK has TBN on a 15 sec cooldown (instead of the ~25 of other tanks), more baseline mitigation due to Oblation charges, and for whatever it's worth they also have the most self-healing potency on their 1-2-3.

You also realise you're getting holy spirits mid rotation now? did you see the changes?

[Gserpent]

You also realise you're getting holy spirits mid rotation now? did you see the changes?

What changes? Square-Enix are a bunch of pathetic cowards and won't actually tell us what's taking place, they just make coy little remarks and tell us to please look forward to the patch notes. All because people got upset at them this one time when they released their upcoming changes. Boo hoo.

One 400 potency cure every 4th GCD would put it roughly in line with the filler combo recovery the other tanks receive. It still wouldn't give us the large amount of on-demand healing - separate from DPS cycles - that the other tanks get.

[Rithy255]

What changes? Square-Enix are a bunch of pathetic cowards and won't actually tell us what's taking place, they just make coy little remarks and tell us to please look forward to the patch notes. All because people got upset at them this one time when they released their upcoming changes. Boo hoo.

One 400 potency cure every 4th GCD would put it roughly in line with the filler combo recovery the other tanks receive. It still wouldn't give us the large amount of on-demand healing - separate from DPS cycles - that the other tanks get.

You realise outside your burst you could likely line up holy spirits better when you're taking damage? You will actually be more free when you sustain yourself then other tanks in that reguard, PLD now has consistent combo healing, on demand healing with holy shelltron, and burst rotation healing, while I want stuff to be more timed, PLD's sustain is clearly on par with the other tanks if not better (apart from warrior), which if PLD had better sustain then warrior it would be really imbalanced, because PLD's already getting another defensive.

We haven't even seen the rest of the changes, which are likely still under some tuning tbh, as disappointed as I am it doesn't mean I have to disrespect people who actually put hard effort into the game I enjoy.