Linux

[Dhalmel]

amd supports openGL they even make linux drivers nivdia supports some open gl as well but they do very little with linux.. But because linux is holding more of market now they will have step up or be left out of those systems such as touch pad pc
but linus is not fan nividia for most part because of this as seen here ----> http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise...-nvidia-linux/

just because they support it doesn't mean it's good support. it's lacking.

[Wolfie]

I didn't pay for my Windows 7, since I got it for free from college. That made it more bearable, but it's still a bad OS.

[Yucie]

I didn't pay for my Windows 7, since I got it for free from college. That made it more bearable, but it's still a bad OS.

Looks like people hate on Windows because it's the most popular OS on the planet? Lawl.

That's a shame, too, because I don't ever see SE porting ARR to Linux. Why? The reasons have already been stated. Don't count on something that has such an abysmal chance of ever actually happening.

[Nakiamiie]

Looks like people hate on Windows because it's the most popular OS on the planet? Lawl.

That's a shame, too, because I don't ever see SE porting ARR to Linux. Why? The reasons have already been stated. Don't count on something that has such an abysmal chance of ever actually happening.

There was an abysmal chance of FFXIV being completely re-written two years ago too. Look at what we have today, ARR waiting right around the corner with a completely re-done world and engine.

I don't care if the support for Linux comes in 2 years, but it's definitely something SE should start looking at when developing their games. The time when Windows reigned supreme for gaming is fading away, slowly but surely.

[Wolfie]

Looks like people hate on Windows because it's the most popular OS on the planet? Lawl.

That's a shame, too, because I don't ever see SE porting ARR to Linux. Why? The reasons have already been stated. Don't count on something that has such an abysmal chance of ever actually happening.

lmao, 'because it's popular'. Yeah, that's it.

And not the fact that DX is a piece of s**t, that it's not stable in the way linux is, that upgrades and updates will eventually cost you, that error reporting is less detailed in Windows, that it's actually LESS performant than Linux, and that they're trying to push a tablet OS with the newest version.

Yeah. It's because it's popular and I'm trying to be indie.

[Delsus]

lmao, 'because it's popular'. Yeah, that's it.

And not the fact that DX is a piece of s**t, that it's not stable in the way linux is, that upgrades and updates will eventually cost you, that error reporting is less detailed in Windows, that it's actually LESS performant than Linux, and that they're trying to push a tablet OS with the newest version.

Yeah. It's because it's popular and I'm trying to be indie.

I don't use Linux right now because of issues with my laptop's switchable graphics making gaming completely impossible (do not buy HP laptops) but I have used it and if I could play games and had the amount of software compaibility as windows I would use linux as my sole OS.

I do agree with everything here, the only time linux has crashed on me is when I cause it, no BSOD, no lockups, large OS updates twice a year. fast security patches and huge customization possibilities.

Linux trumps windows in all areas except software compatibility and switchable graphics.

Windows is only the most popular OS because laptops ship with it, no other reason, and the reason it has better software compatibility is because it is more popular (again going back to the fact it is factory installed)

The reason OSX isn't as popular as windows as well is because Macs are so expensive compared to PCs.

[Yucie]

I don't use Linux right now because of issues with my laptop's switchable graphics making gaming completely impossible (do not buy HP laptops) but I have used it and if I could play games and had the amount of software compaibility as windows I would use linux as my sole OS.

I do agree with everything here, the only time linux has crashed on me is when I cause it, no BSOD, no lockups, large OS updates twice a year. fast security patches and huge customization possibilities.

Linux trumps windows in all areas except software compatibility and switchable graphics.

Windows is only the most popular OS because laptops ship with it, no other reason, and the reason it has better software compatibility is because it is more popular (again going back to the fact it is factory installed)

The reason OSX isn't as popular as windows as well is because Macs are so expensive compared to PCs.

That's a shame, because software compatibility isn't a 'small problem'; it's actually quite a huge problem, with all of the software, games, and other things out there that ARE NOT useable on Linux. Software compatibility is one of Linux's biggest problems, and until it's fixed, Linux will never be as huge as Windows. That's just fact.

[Soukyuu]

That's a shame, too, because I don't ever see SE porting ARR to Linux. Why? The reasons have already been stated. Don't count on something that has such an abysmal chance of ever actually happening.

Except that they already have the openGL code from the PS3 version... So the biggest part is done. And since SE is familiar with the PS3, it's familiar with openGL (unlike with DX it seems, see the alt-tab crashing issue), so they don't even have to train people in openGL.

it's not stable in the way linux is

Idk what you do to your windows, but mine is as stable as my linux.

that they're trying to push a tablet OS with the newest version.

Yeah, that's why I stick with win7. Maybe linux will win more support in the future, Valve porting steam is great news already.

[Yucie]

Except that they already have the openGL code from the PS3 version... So the biggest part is done. And since SE is familiar with the PS3, it's familiar with openGL (unlike with DX it seems, see the alt-tab crashing issue), so they don't even have to train people in openGL.

Is OpenGL the entirety of the Linux OS? If so, then sure, pretty much any game from PS3 could make it to Linux (if what you say is true).. but, I'm pretty sure there's way more to deal with than just OpenGL.

And even then, the only way I see SE porting this to Linux is far, far down the road after the game has been out for awhile and they've possibly profited from it. However, with the miniscule amount of Linux users against the overwhelming majority of the world using Windows, I don't ever see the game being ported. One person's demands for it won't make that happen.

[Wolfie]

Idk what you do to your windows, but mine is as stable as my linux.

Anecdotal.

Windows as an OS will come to a halt when there are issues with software, core dumps and blue screen are still a thing, updates always require restarts, etc. Linux is built from the ground up to not require reboots and to be extremely stable in case of software crashes.

About the only things that can damage Linux to the pont where the OS needs to restart is kernel upgrades and fork bombs (if don't know how to prepare for those).

These are less of an issue for home users, but they're still a thing and I heavily dislike Windows for the way it manages crashes.