The next "Oh, shit its Ranjit" post...

[Raven2014]

Yes we spared against Venat but she literally uses a Limit Break that looks akin to what Ryne does in E8.

Except at the end of EndWalker it's implied LB is Dynamis, something that is exclusively unavailable to the Ancient. The only Ancient can use it is Eledibus when he assum the role of the first WoL and tab in the emotion and hope of the common people.

So Venas wasn't limit breaking anything.

[SannaR]

Except at the end of EndWalker it's implied LB is Dynamis, something that is exclusively unavailable to the Ancient. The only Ancient can use it is Eledibus when he assum the role of the first WoL and tab in the emotion and hope of the common people.

So Venas wasn't limit breaking anything.

Then what would you call it? As a bar does fill the Limit Break going off sound plays and if you don't have enough HP to survive it you end up dead. And afterwards you're shown to be in a winded state. Also Venat doesn't fly her self she's on her dog that's capable of flight and seems to be able to fly fairly fast Argo not her that is. Ancients can use Dynamis but it's harder for them to do so. Otherwise Hermes wouldn't have been able to create a being that's mostly made out of the stuff. The need to fly to distant plants is the main reason Meteion is made out of it for the most part. So that she and her sister can soak up any needed extra Dynamis as that's what most of space consists of.

[Raven2014]

Then what would you call it?

Uh ... a non-LB ability?

Otherwise Hermes wouldn't have been able to create a being that's mostly made out of the stuff. The need to fly to distant plants is the main reason Meteion is made out of it for the most part. So that she and her sister can soak up any needed extra Dynamis as that's what most of space consists of.

You seem to conflate knowledge and physical manifestation here. We're been LBing all years long way before we know about Dynamis. All Herme did was creating a being with an extreme thin aether, and that's enough to let Metion to freely use Dynamis. Human history are filled with invention people create way before understanding the science behind it. Like, you know a sponge absorb water, so you make a sponge if you want to drain water even if you have no idea why a sponge absorb water.

And saying it's difficult for the Ancient to use is severely understate it, and here you kinda conflict your own point, or rather your point conflict itself.

- If it's difficult to use ... then how and why Venat just casually use it against us in a sparring match?
- If she can just causally use Dynamis in such a non-consequence way like that, it would make no sense for the Ancient to lost the battle of the final day as bad as they did. Venat already gain and retain that knowledge, it's unthinkable she didn't try take that route if it was an option.

It's a basically a catch 22 for your argument.

Herme did not specifically create a dynamis being, he created a thin aether being, and that just happens to meet the condition for a being to use Dynamis. You made it sound like he's someone "harness Dynamis" as a material for Metion and her sisters, that's not the case. The Ancient can't use Dynamis not because they lack the knowledge, it's because being such a dense Aether being they can't just use it, period. That's one the main reasons why Venat sundered the ancient, she recognize fighting Dynamis with aether is unsustainable, and the only way to do it is making the inhabitants able to use Dynamis directly by thinning their aether concentration many fold.

I mean ... not sure what else to say here, this is the main theme and you can even assert the whole core of the story up to this point. You can only insist of Venat - as one of the most powerful ancient (which is somethign work against, not in favor of her able to use Dynamis) - casually LBing in a non-critical situation by rectoning the lore, just to make your point ...