Please add damage meters, Yoshi P.

[Dzonathan]

I don't. In my first post I was trying to understand why that other poster thought it would be a bad thing to have access to damage meters to give comms.

Damage meters wont get anyone comms.
They go for noticeable things like tank rushing ahead of group and not needing a healer or a healer who heals every mechanic fail.
If not for those things then they go for pretty plate with cheesecake or animated relic/ultimate weapon.
DPS are at the bottom of the pecking order.

So you rather support the environment of sexual harrassment then, something that is rampant in ff14

How in god's name can anyone get themselves sexually harrassed through the internet?
The worst someone can do to you is send a dick pick and even then it's on you for opening a dodgy link.

[Renalt]

Good thing numbers only matter to a specific crowd in this game that doesn't make up the majority.

Or are we really going to have the 25% completion rate argument again?

Edit: Actually, put a pin in that for the future. I gotta go to work and get my day going. Lol. Thanks for my morning entertainment again.

I know you are bored and just poking fun at this Dorkfish of a man ( I use "man" loosely ) but you should save your posting limit for better things. Maybe 1 a day for him?

[Kaurhz]

So you rather support the environment of sexual harrassment then, something that is rampant in ff14

This is rampant in any game community, I can assure you. A community that is more hard-focused on DPS numbers from a public perspective does not preclude the possibility, and presence of sexual harassment, and most especially how prevalent that behavior might be. In fact, if you went to enough parties, you'd quickly come to realize that a lot, if not most people are simply too introverted to actually make any advances.

[LianaThorne]

I know you are bored and just poking fun at this Dorkfish of a man ( I use "man" loosely ) but you should save your posting limit for better things. Maybe 1 a day for him?

There's a posting limit?

J.k. I appreciate the concern but have yet to hit that nor do I spend enough time on here per day to hit it since I joined. XD

[Shurrikhan]

This is rampant in any game community, I can assure you. A community that is more hard-focused on DPS numbers from a public perspective does not preclude the possibility, and presence of sexual harassment, and most especially how prevalent that behavior might be.

I don't think she's ever suggested otherwise -- only that priorities would seem rather backwards if that people would be so worried about harassment over parses when such is protected against by both the letter and spirit of the law even while the letter of the law here frequently offers little recourse against sexual harassment, overt stalking, etc. One seems to be bending over backwards in fear of more informed judgments and resolutions and consoles having access to a useful learning tool, all while treating something far more perverse as 'whatever' (or leaving it completely out of discussion when waxing the wonders of the game's community).

[Kaurhz]

I don't think she's ever suggested otherwise -- only that priorities would seem rather backwards if that people would be so worried about harassment over parses when such is protected against by both the letter and spirit of the law even while the letter of the law here frequently offers little recourse against sexual harassment, overt stalking, etc. One seems to be bending over backwards in fear of more informed judgments and resolutions and consoles having access to a useful learning tool, all while treating something far more perverse as 'whatever' (or leaving it completely out of discussion when waxing the wonders of the game's community).

That would depend on your perception and understanding of what goes on at parties in the first place. If your first perception of the outlined quote:

Am I being hyperbolic and paranoid? Perhaps from an outside point of view, but I've been on both sides of the curtain and I'd much rather deal with FFXIV toxic casualism that ultimately compels me to spam /beesknees in a fc club rather than deal with WoW's toxic elitism that ultimately compels me to turn a hobby into a job.

Is sexual harassment then there is a greater issue with attempting to misrepresent the original comment than there is in trying to make a sincere response out of it, most especially when the poster never made the claim that they would prefer sterner punishments around parsing than they would sexual harassment.

[LianaThorne]

How in god's name can anyone get themselves sexually harrassed through the internet?
The worst someone can do to you is send a dick pick and even then it's on you for opening a dodgy link.

Do people actually put dick pics in weird links now? I must be really out of the loop.

I personally just get them sent unsolicited through Discord by randoms (or requested for ERP) when they like my Miqo....even though I literally am listed as "Ask to DM" or "Closed DMs". (I.e. ask me for permission in a public space first/don't message me at all....if you don't know the lingo.)

I also have people I haven't spoken to in years from college or high school that like to crop up out of the blue and try to get me in bed with them without even asking how I've been.

Just some examples for ya. If you have or a girlfriend/boyfriend or wife/husband that spends any amount of time on social media you can probably ask them for more.

[Shurrikhan]

That would depend on your perception and understanding of what goes on at parties in the first place. If your first perception of the outlined quote:

Is sexual harassment then there is a greater issue with attempting to misrepresent the original comment than there is in trying to make a sincere response out of it, most especially when the poster never made the claim that they would prefer sterner punishments around parsing than they would sexual harassment.

I wasn't responding to that quote. I was responding to your quote of the person you quoted.

Note: Rael's comment wasn't made solely to it or as a way of bending "spam /beesknees in a fc club" into "sexual harassment"; her concern was separately given multiple times prior.

Heck, this was my only response to the content of any of Dzonathan's posts (by way of response to another calling his claim a slippery slope fallacy):

It's a fallacy only if you start calling something a slope slippery out of hand rather than per any evidence of critical thresholds that'd increasingly accelerate the effects rendered.

The way Dzonathan is looking at it isn't that, though; he's simply advocating for his own preference between two packaged options.