Automatic Home Demolition is Resuming!!

[dspguy]

If a mount drops, the group can then run the instance again and generate a new mount until everyone in the party has one. That's the basic principle of farm groups. Players can't generate new houses. Houses are limited but mounts are not. That's why unused houses need to be released and given to other players, but mounts do not.

As I said in my previous post, there is no housing shortage. I just jumped on Dynamis DC. Popped around to the various housing wards, went through wards 13-24 on all 4 servers. There were ~1000 plots up on just one server. Jumping around to different servers, about the same on each. And the supply will go up if SE adjusts wards 10-12 to be for individuals again, we'll see another 600ish come available per server.

Roughly 4000 plots up right now. For any player in that region. Can't get a house on your current server? Hop on Halicarnassus, for example, and you can get a house. The argument that houses should be treated differently than any other aspect of the game is silly. The only argument I've heard is "but houses are limited." Sure, but you can still get one. So they are not limited. It is moot.

And my quote was taken out of context anyway. The fact does remain, if a mount/plot is available and your "bid" wins, I do not get that mount/plot and I have to try again. However, in BOTH cases, they are available.

[Shibi]

The stupidest thing of all - and proof 100% it's naught but a money grab - is that demo will be running on Materia too.

Most wards are empty here. And - it's a known fact they control the demo at a region level as a minimum.

This has NOTHING to do with freeing up houses as much as "Oh subscriptions and cash shop are dropping, we need to have more money for 16, demo all the OCE houses!"


That will just make our servers look even emptier and drive more people off. Yet another bone-headed bit of idiocy to drive people away from an entire datacentre -- We need wards that look like there is housing in it, removing houses from Materia and putting in empty plots is just dumbness to the 16th degree.

[dspguy]

The stupidest thing of all - and proof 100% it's naught but a money grab - is that demo will be running on Materia too.

Most wards are empty here. And - it's a known fact they control the demo at a region level as a minimum.

This has NOTHING to do with freeing up houses as much as "Oh subscriptions and cash shop are dropping, we need to have more money for 16, demo all the OCE houses!"


That will just make our servers look even emptier and drive more people off. Yet another bone-headed bit of idiocy to drive people away from an entire datacentre -- We need wards that look like there is housing in it, removing houses from Materia and putting in empty plots is just dumbness to the 16th degree.

I've been saying that for years. Consider that there are something like 80 servers now, for every player that owns a house, SE has a near-guaranteed $13/mo. 80 servers x 5 districts x 24 wards x 2 subdivisions x 30 plots per = 576,000 plots. That's nearly $7.5M per month that they can count on. When they add another 6 wards, that's $9.3M per month if they all sell out. $112M per year - just from subs that are pretty much locked in.

Of course, many of these players would be subbed regardless if they have a house or not since they are full-time players, but I personally think that subs wax and wane based on the content cycle. Only some small fraction actually sub/unsub based on the content cycle and another small fraction will unsub for ~40 days and then resub to keep their house. In either case, they are guaranteed $100M/year just from how they managed housing and by keeping auto-demolition part of their policy.

If you believe the figures out there from some sources, the operating income from FFXIV was about $500 million. So, $100 million from "locked-in subs" is significant. I'm one of those "locked-in players." I lost my house once during the first purge back in 2015/2016 and was lucky to get a medium about a year after I returned. My wife really lucked out and picked up a large in a black market deal gone wrong and she just happened to walk by and see an available large. Considering how we'd likely never see a medium or large again given the current system, when we take a break from the game, we could manage 5 months of sub to keep the houses open for a year. But when we take breaks, it is usually only for 3-5 months. For example, we'd resub on January 1. Play through to January 30th (reopen the house). Resub once just to keep the house (March 12th or so) and reopen the house again around April 12th. And then resub and actually play in mid-May.

Not ideal and they get $13 extra. Just to keep digital real estate. But my wife find great joy in her house so it is worth the money to keep it open even during the short hiatus that we take.

[GTK0HLK]

Don't have a horse yet.>Though I'd rather they improve and fix the current system.<
If everyone could get a large/mid, they would. SE doesn't get that they should have some new Wards Split into such a way.

also adding into the Locked subs from another above.
Some of the long stretch players also have multiple retainers. so that also adds more into it.

[ameliaw]

The stupidest thing of all - and proof 100% it's naught but a money grab - is that demo will be running on Materia too.

Most wards are empty here. And - it's a known fact they control the demo at a region level as a minimum.

This has NOTHING to do with freeing up houses as much as "Oh subscriptions and cash shop are dropping, we need to have more money for 16, demo all the OCE houses!"


That will just make our servers look even emptier and drive more people off. Yet another bone-headed bit of idiocy to drive people away from an entire datacentre -- We need wards that look like there is housing in it, removing houses from Materia and putting in empty plots is just dumbness to the 16th degree.

I forgot that Materia existed. You have a pretty good point

[Deveryn]

Just because the situation on Materia is different doesn't necessarily mean they should be exempt. That DC came long after the demo feature. If they want a change, they can petition for it themselves.

[Shibi]

Just because the situation on Materia is different doesn't necessarily mean they should be exempt. That DC came long after the demo feature. If they want a change, they can petition for it themselves.

Seems you missed my point. eh?

Demo is a by region thing Dev, you know this very well. USA can be turned on and off, Japan can be turned on and off, EU can be turned on and off all independent of each other. Its been the norm since demo came in that this is regional and doable.

Needs no petition, that wasn't the point hun, it's just greed for money and typical SE boneheadedness on all things Materia. SE have the abillity to leave ours off, however they want the money so chuck us in the boat with the rest of you when it's not needed by a tens of thousands of plots on every server.

It's a money grab. How can you dispute it?

[LaylaTsarra]

TThat will just make our servers look even emptier and drive more people off. Yet another bone-headed bit of idiocy to drive people away from an entire datacentre -- We need wards that look like there is housing in it, removing houses from Materia and putting in empty plots is just dumbness to the 16th degree.

Only 8 houses have sold in Empty in my subdivision on Sophia. A subdivision that was once FC only and which is now private and should be going mixed FC/Private. The last of the large houses finally sold and two medium plots leaving 4 mediums still up for grabs. The other 3 are smalls. After each bid cycle I hope to see a new neighbor but seems that doesn't happen very often and it's been months and months.

Materia needs DC travel bad but I think that is something that doesn't appear to be in the cards with this dev team.

[Deveryn]

Seems you missed my point. eh?

Demo is a by region thing Dev, you know this very well. USA can be turned on and off, Japan can be turned on and off, EU can be turned on and off all independent of each other. Its been the norm since demo came in that this is regional and doable.

Needs no petition, that wasn't the point hun, it's just greed for money and typical SE boneheadedness on all things Materia. SE have the abillity to leave ours off, however they want the money so chuck us in the boat with the rest of you when it's not needed by a tens of thousands of plots on every server.

It's a money grab. How can you dispute it?

It's not a money grab. It's something the players requested. If you call attention to the situation out there, they might actually change it. You can't just assume people are going to look at something and question why it's that way, when they have a thousand things going on.

The only thing I'm missing is a link to a thread where you folks actually started a request related to this feature. I've only ever seen threads about DC travel.

[DeNada]

Why shouldn't auto demolition be turned on for Materia?

This would free up some of the more coveted plots which inactive players are no longer using.

Or would you rather plots like LB-41 be no longer attainable by those players who miss out in the intitial lottery round?

Baloney I say, bring on auto demolition to Materia!