Automatic Home Demolition is Resuming!!

[Amarande]

At the end of the day you can say "well Yoshi P says to unsub and come back" but see there is a catch. You stop playing you forgo all rights therefore if you decide to quit or go away for a long time

Again, the problem is less this of itself as the fact that the game is bad at providing a smooth enough interest curve.

In other words, if you need to enter your house every 45 days, the game really needs to encourage you to actually play that often. Otherwise, a lot of players are in fact logging in just to refresh their housing timer, and paying what's basically at that point nothing more than a rent on their ingame house.

Unfortunately, as I've mentioned before, the game does not do this. Most new content is short enough that you will easily consume it within a few hours, and most that is not so puts massive practical pressure to keep up with the community, so that either way, the present state of affairs heavily encourages you to consume every content drop right away (even though Yoshida ostensibly wants you to pace yourself) and therefore have these months-long periods where there is little or nothing to do.

Maybe a middle ground would be for demolition timers to simply not tick as long as the owner maintains an active paid subscription, doing away with the ritual of physically logging in to reset the timer? It seems rational that if you're still paying for the service, you care enough that you deserve to keep your house (do you lose your home IRL if you take a long vacation abroad but still pay the rent?). It also might mean that a lot of the blanket timer pauses could be eliminated (because while the situation might be bad enough a lot of people can't game, I'd suspect in most of these cases people at least do have some means of being able to get to Mog Station to pay sub, or have multi-month subs or large enough Crysta deposits).

[Heroman3003]

Again, the problem is less this of itself as the fact that the game is bad at providing a smooth enough interest curve.

In other words, if you need to enter your house every 45 days, the game really needs to encourage you to actually play that often. Otherwise, a lot of players are in fact logging in just to refresh their housing timer, and paying what's basically at that point nothing more than a rent on their ingame house.

Unfortunately, as I've mentioned before, the game does not do this. Most new content is short enough that you will easily consume it within a few hours, and most that is not so puts massive practical pressure to keep up with the community, so that either way, the present state of affairs heavily encourages you to consume every content drop right away (even though Yoshida ostensibly wants you to pace yourself) and therefore have these months-long periods where there is little or nothing to do.

Maybe a middle ground would be for demolition timers to simply not tick as long as the owner maintains an active paid subscription, doing away with the ritual of physically logging in to reset the timer? It seems rational that if you're still paying for the service, you care enough that you deserve to keep your house (do you lose your home IRL if you take a long vacation abroad but still pay the rent?). It also might mean that a lot of the blanket timer pauses could be eliminated (because while the situation might be bad enough a lot of people can't game, I'd suspect in most of these cases people at least do have some means of being able to get to Mog Station to pay sub, or have multi-month subs or large enough Crysta deposits).

The answer to that is simple. Its not the game's failure to provide interest. It's people's failure to realize that if the only reason they log in is to refresh the house, they aren't actually using it and they should relinquish it at that point. Ironically enough, if more people did that, a lot of spaces in housing districts would start freeing up and have more flow through them. But that would never happen, because people are too greedy over the limited housing resource and are willing to pay subscription on game they dont play to keep ownership of content they don't use.

[dspguy]

Because at this point in the game's life cycle, houses are a limited commodity. The other items aren't. A mount dropping for one player doesn't prevent another player from getting that mount. Someone getting an achievement that grants a title doesn't remove that achievement from the game so no others can get it.

You're right that housing shouldn't be different - yet it is. Hence the need for demolition.

Until such time as SE changes the system so supply of houses is not a problem, players need to weigh their desire for a house against their desire to take extended breaks from the game on occasion. They still have access to housing in the form of apartments if they want those long breaks that badly. They can still be tenants in the houses of their friends who don't take long breaks and so aren't at risk of demolition.

I would disagree on some accounts. If a mount drops and you win it, I do not win it. The same way if I own a house, you do not own that house. We might eventually both own a house (and mount) though.

Also, it isn't really clear if there is a housing shortage. Are there any plots left on these new DC? If so, then there is not a housing shortage. Switch servers, buy that plot. DC travel to a more populated server. Problem solved. It is a solution. Not one many people will like. But there are lots of players that left servers with no housing available to buy a house in the new DCs.

[Rolder50]

That's where you get confused that SE is a company trying to make money. If everyone stopped playing FFXIV would cease to exist. There are people who play this game everyday while others decide to take a break every patch cycle. At the end of the day housing is a luxury not a right. Yeah you may have paid for it but it's like real life. If you don't pay your rent/mortgage you lose your house. They may "encourage" you to take a break but let's say for all intense and purposes they don't want you to.

Yep, every time I see someone go off about Yoshi-P saying it's okay to take breaks one time as an excuse for lack of content or other issues, I can't help but laugh and laugh.

[Corrupted]

45 is more then generous I say 2 weeks should be the timer honestly.

By that logic, why stop there? Have it set to 1 week your sub is 30 days, that's only 4 times you need to login! Or just make it daily, same reasoning : )

[Boblawblah]

I have to laugh at people with multiple houses upset that they can't just stop subbing for months at a time and keep their house. Do you have no comprehension of how the system works? And that there are a limited amount of houses? Or is it just "i have mine, who cares about anyone else?"

And only NOW you blame the system? really?

[Bobby66]

By that logic, why stop there? Have it set to 1 week your sub is 30 days, that's only 4 times you need to login! Or just make it daily, same reasoning : )

I would be all for making it 24 hours.

[rxantos]

Irrelevant of what they say. They are a company and thus is there to make money.

One of the ways to prey in the attachment of people for in game housing. It was designed this way in purpose. As it would have been trivial to implement instanced housing (if they implemented a personal Island, they could have implemented instanced housing on the island). This confirms this was done by design. Otherwise, the problem would have been fixed with instanced housing on the Islands.

At the end of day. Don't trust their word. Their word means NOTHING as is a company not an individual. Instead check their actions. That's what matter.

[Espon]

Irrelevant of what they say. They are a company and thus is there to make money.

One of the ways to prey in the attachment of people for in game housing. It was designed this way in purpose. As it would have been trivial to implement instanced housing (if they implemented a personal Island, they could have implemented instanced housing on the island). This confirms this was done by design. Otherwise, the problem would have been fixed with instanced housing on the Islands.

At the end of day. Don't trust their word. Their word means NOTHING as is a company not an individual. Instead check their actions. That's what matter.

The island takes up very little memory compared to a house. The island only needs to keep track of a few things like what buildinga, animals, and crops you have. A single house needs to keep track of several variables for up to 440 pieces of furniture and other information for what's in storage. It's not just a trivial thing to do as the two systems are quite different.

It would be great if everyone was able to get a house, however considering they have been cutting more and more corners with content, adding housing for everyone would cost them more money and SE needs to dump the profits from FF14 into more important things like FF16 development and worthless NFTs.

[Reinha]

I would disagree on some accounts. If a mount drops and you win it, I do not win it. The same way if I own a house, you do not own that house. We might eventually both own a house (and mount) though.

If a mount drops, the group can then run the instance again and generate a new mount until everyone in the party has one. That's the basic principle of farm groups. Players can't generate new houses. Houses are limited but mounts are not. That's why unused houses need to be released and given to other players, but mounts do not.