Automatic Home Demolition is Resuming!!

[ameliaw]

Is it though? Were talking several wards taken that would be released at once (assuming they don't have brain damage), that's a lot of houses to cast your lot in VS the odd gotcha house with 50+ bidders on it

"several wards" lol I don't know if this is a thing in your server, but in mine there isn't a single one that is majoritarily owned by a single person/obvious random submarine FCs other than in Empy(which doesn't matter because there's still over a hundred FC plots left and none of these would help with the personal demand)

Meanwhile, autodemo has been off for a very long time now and looking at Steamcharts the playerbase is now about one third than what it was when EW released. Its a terrible metric but enough to guess that a very large percentage of houses will be available once its turned on again.
I don't really like autodemo but it is what it is.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

I don't even know why ppl are so adamant on not increasing the auto demolition timer.

Look, I'm on your side here. I want everyone to get a house and not lose them due to an auto demolition timer which is way too restricting.

If you really want to blame someone on the shortage of houses, it should really be players who hoard multiple houses and SE who is not taking any actions against such anti-social behavior in a MMO.

Auto demo is good for people that aren't playing anymore gives it a chance for people that are playing and want one. Having a house is a privilage not a right.

[Boblawblah]

I have to laugh at people with multiple houses upset that they can't just stop subbing for months at a time and keep their house. Do you have no comprehension of how the system works? And that there are a limited amount of houses? Or is it just "i have mine, who cares about anyone else?"

And only NOW you blame the system? really?

[rxantos]

Irrelevant of what they say. They are a company and thus is there to make money.

One of the ways to prey in the attachment of people for in game housing. It was designed this way in purpose. As it would have been trivial to implement instanced housing (if they implemented a personal Island, they could have implemented instanced housing on the island). This confirms this was done by design. Otherwise, the problem would have been fixed with instanced housing on the Islands.

At the end of day. Don't trust their word. Their word means NOTHING as is a company not an individual. Instead check their actions. That's what matter.

[Espon]

Irrelevant of what they say. They are a company and thus is there to make money.

One of the ways to prey in the attachment of people for in game housing. It was designed this way in purpose. As it would have been trivial to implement instanced housing (if they implemented a personal Island, they could have implemented instanced housing on the island). This confirms this was done by design. Otherwise, the problem would have been fixed with instanced housing on the Islands.

At the end of day. Don't trust their word. Their word means NOTHING as is a company not an individual. Instead check their actions. That's what matter.

The island takes up very little memory compared to a house. The island only needs to keep track of a few things like what buildinga, animals, and crops you have. A single house needs to keep track of several variables for up to 440 pieces of furniture and other information for what's in storage. It's not just a trivial thing to do as the two systems are quite different.

It would be great if everyone was able to get a house, however considering they have been cutting more and more corners with content, adding housing for everyone would cost them more money and SE needs to dump the profits from FF14 into more important things like FF16 development and worthless NFTs.

[Shibi]

The stupidest thing of all - and proof 100% it's naught but a money grab - is that demo will be running on Materia too.

Most wards are empty here. And - it's a known fact they control the demo at a region level as a minimum.

This has NOTHING to do with freeing up houses as much as "Oh subscriptions and cash shop are dropping, we need to have more money for 16, demo all the OCE houses!"


That will just make our servers look even emptier and drive more people off. Yet another bone-headed bit of idiocy to drive people away from an entire datacentre -- We need wards that look like there is housing in it, removing houses from Materia and putting in empty plots is just dumbness to the 16th degree.

[dspguy]

The stupidest thing of all - and proof 100% it's naught but a money grab - is that demo will be running on Materia too.

Most wards are empty here. And - it's a known fact they control the demo at a region level as a minimum.

This has NOTHING to do with freeing up houses as much as "Oh subscriptions and cash shop are dropping, we need to have more money for 16, demo all the OCE houses!"


That will just make our servers look even emptier and drive more people off. Yet another bone-headed bit of idiocy to drive people away from an entire datacentre -- We need wards that look like there is housing in it, removing houses from Materia and putting in empty plots is just dumbness to the 16th degree.

I've been saying that for years. Consider that there are something like 80 servers now, for every player that owns a house, SE has a near-guaranteed $13/mo. 80 servers x 5 districts x 24 wards x 2 subdivisions x 30 plots per = 576,000 plots. That's nearly $7.5M per month that they can count on. When they add another 6 wards, that's $9.3M per month if they all sell out. $112M per year - just from subs that are pretty much locked in.

Of course, many of these players would be subbed regardless if they have a house or not since they are full-time players, but I personally think that subs wax and wane based on the content cycle. Only some small fraction actually sub/unsub based on the content cycle and another small fraction will unsub for ~40 days and then resub to keep their house. In either case, they are guaranteed $100M/year just from how they managed housing and by keeping auto-demolition part of their policy.

If you believe the figures out there from some sources, the operating income from FFXIV was about $500 million. So, $100 million from "locked-in subs" is significant. I'm one of those "locked-in players." I lost my house once during the first purge back in 2015/2016 and was lucky to get a medium about a year after I returned. My wife really lucked out and picked up a large in a black market deal gone wrong and she just happened to walk by and see an available large. Considering how we'd likely never see a medium or large again given the current system, when we take a break from the game, we could manage 5 months of sub to keep the houses open for a year. But when we take breaks, it is usually only for 3-5 months. For example, we'd resub on January 1. Play through to January 30th (reopen the house). Resub once just to keep the house (March 12th or so) and reopen the house again around April 12th. And then resub and actually play in mid-May.

Not ideal and they get $13 extra. Just to keep digital real estate. But my wife find great joy in her house so it is worth the money to keep it open even during the short hiatus that we take.

[ameliaw]

The stupidest thing of all - and proof 100% it's naught but a money grab - is that demo will be running on Materia too.

Most wards are empty here. And - it's a known fact they control the demo at a region level as a minimum.

This has NOTHING to do with freeing up houses as much as "Oh subscriptions and cash shop are dropping, we need to have more money for 16, demo all the OCE houses!"


That will just make our servers look even emptier and drive more people off. Yet another bone-headed bit of idiocy to drive people away from an entire datacentre -- We need wards that look like there is housing in it, removing houses from Materia and putting in empty plots is just dumbness to the 16th degree.

I forgot that Materia existed. You have a pretty good point

[LaylaTsarra]

TThat will just make our servers look even emptier and drive more people off. Yet another bone-headed bit of idiocy to drive people away from an entire datacentre -- We need wards that look like there is housing in it, removing houses from Materia and putting in empty plots is just dumbness to the 16th degree.

Only 8 houses have sold in Empty in my subdivision on Sophia. A subdivision that was once FC only and which is now private and should be going mixed FC/Private. The last of the large houses finally sold and two medium plots leaving 4 mediums still up for grabs. The other 3 are smalls. After each bid cycle I hope to see a new neighbor but seems that doesn't happen very often and it's been months and months.

Materia needs DC travel bad but I think that is something that doesn't appear to be in the cards with this dev team.

[GTK0HLK]

Don't have a horse yet.>Though I'd rather they improve and fix the current system.<
If everyone could get a large/mid, they would. SE doesn't get that they should have some new Wards Split into such a way.

also adding into the Locked subs from another above.
Some of the long stretch players also have multiple retainers. so that also adds more into it.