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  1. #51
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandt_Nunh View Post
    where'd you get that picture of me
    I've no idea. That post I made is like 6 months old.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  2. #52
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    I've no idea. That post I made is like 6 months old.
    Well, I doubt they're 6 months old o,o unless...
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    No one's saying something like Square should go back and fix pre-existing hats. But it should be expected that any new hat, especially from the cash shop, works for all races, especially if real money is involved.

    Just because you don't care about your ears being cut off doesn't mean that this isn't an important issue. All races should work, period. If you don't see fixing issues with the player's character as important then your priorities are really weird.
    For me (and I insist on the "for me"): the gameplay is much more important. It affects the whole playerbase, whether you're a casual or hardcore gamer; whether you RP or not; whether you're a tank, a healer, a jack-of-all-trades or a class obsessive. It's just a matter of priority... And despite the way you end your message, it's not particularly "strange" to work by priority.

    @Verdeluck, let me answer you in the same message: I can't answer you in detail about the new equipment, but I suspect it works here like in WOW? In WOW, many hats, new or old, simply removed the hair. Because the game was coded in such a way that wearing a hat was understood as a hairstyle in its own right. So the two were not compatible. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a blockage of that kind here, because as you rightly point out: otherwise it wouldn't make much sense for them to voluntarily exclude the new races.
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  4. #54
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    Yuki Yagami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Glad you liked. I post on r/shitpost stuff like that about once a week.
    Honestly, you should post it again with a reference to this thread lololol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Hrothgar so done with being second class that they summon their own primal to give them hair.
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    Matsya is an elephant. I cant blame them for not casting the voice to a talking elephant.

  5. #55
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    For me (and I insist on the "for me"): the gameplay is much more important. It affects the whole playerbase, whether you're a casual or hardcore gamer; whether you RP or not; whether you're a tank, a healer, a jack-of-all-trades or a class obsessive. It's just a matter of priority... And despite the way you end your message, it's not particularly "strange" to work by priority.

    @Verdeluck, let me answer you in the same message: I can't answer you in detail about the new equipment, but I suspect it works here like in WOW? In WOW, many hats, new or old, simply removed the hair. Because the game was coded in such a way that wearing a hat was understood as a hairstyle in its own right. So the two were not compatible. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a blockage of that kind here, because as you rightly point out: otherwise it wouldn't make much sense for them to voluntarily exclude the new races.
    What an incredibly uneducated post. Do you seriously think that the artists and modelers are out here coding the encounters? No, they make the gear and model it. The gameplay and art aspects are completely separated on the development side, as they are with every game. It doesn't take away from Savage raids to have the art team spend a few more weeks actually making the headgear so viera and hroths can wear them. It doesn't take time away from the story dungeon to have the art team make crowns, masks, and hoods, headgear are already in the game and work with viera and hroths instead of another hat that's not usable. They can spend time with their art team to work on the headgear and it won't take away time from any other content because the artists are not the ones coding the encounters.

    It's not some zero sum game that you have to come in here to try to tell us we should accept not having a large amount of polish that other races enjoy. The races have been out for a solid 1/4 of the life of the game at this point, and viera/hroth players have been asking the entire time for hats and headgear, as well as the all race hairs to be ported over, so there's really no excuse for any new cosmetics to be released that are incompatible. SE and the dev team choose what to make for new content, and they consistently choose to make things that don't work for 2 of the races instead of working within their limitations. That's the frustration. Also that they have the nerve to charge viera full price for about 75% of a mogstation outfit, since they can't use parts of it. If I'm paying 20 bucks, I better be able to wear every single part of that outfit.
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    Last edited by VerdeLuck; 12-16-2022 at 08:40 AM.

  6. #56
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunnycake View Post
    Honestly, you should post it again with a reference to this thread lololol
    Last post I mentioned the forums on was this one.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitpostXIV...ums_there_is_a
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  7. #57
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    Yuki Yagami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Last post I mentioned the forums on was this one.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitpostXIV...ums_there_is_a
    Fudge, how did i missed that one. Also, I did a reverse search on that comic and from the summary I am very interested on reading it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Hrothgar so done with being second class that they summon their own primal to give them hair.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Matsya is an elephant. I cant blame them for not casting the voice to a talking elephant.

  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunnycake View Post
    Fudge, how did i missed that one. Also, I did a reverse search on that comic and from the summary I am very interested on reading it.
    I can't remember what thread it was but someone said something about housing not having the option for toilets so people started to give their theories why there isn't one.

    My favorite was everything is Aether. Makes the most sense lore wise.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  9. #59
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    If that was the case then why do they continue to release new gear that is incompatible patch after patch? Why do the new outfits on mogstation released 3 years after these races came out have this restriction when they cost 20 real US dollars?
    It's still happening because it wasn't just a decision to not modify old gear, but seems to have affected how they've programmed the hairstyles.

    New hats can work for Viera/Hrothgar if they fully conceal the hair or don't affect it, but not if they only hide the upper half of the hair – which naturally is the majority of hats.
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It's still happening because it wasn't just a decision to not modify old gear, but seems to have affected how they've programmed the hairstyles.

    New hats can work for Viera/Hrothgar if they fully conceal the hair or don't affect it, but not if they only hide the upper half of the hair – which naturally is the majority of hats.
    And with that being the case, they can make headgear that hide the hair or show all of the hair. They can work within those parameters instead of making 2 races unable to wear artifact gear and raid reward gear. Nothing says new hats have to hide part of the hair but not all of it other than the art department's stubborn decision to keep making hats that don't work with viera.
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