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    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Jealousy under the guise of hating on FOMO.

    Sounds dumb and I don't mind the normal person hating on FOMO, but competitions having unique stuff has somehow been bashed regularly like "I am not good enough for xy, therefore I feel it is unfair that I don't have a chance on ABC".

    Always wanting to deny others from having things instead of asking things to be expanded upon. A shame really.
    Ultimates seem to be the only thing those folks don't whine about. Probably because they just pay for clears...

    The reason the playerbase is like this is because Square-Enix has coddled and groomed them to be this way. Any time they were at a point where they *could* have implemented a knowledge check or skills test, they chose instead to allow people to bypass it, whether by adding "very easy" mode (which tunes things so loosely that you generally can completely ignore the intended method of completion) to solo duties, or designing Duty Finder with "stronger players will carry the weaker ones" in mind.

    Bardam's Mettle proved that you can put knowledge checks into the game, and they don't even have to be hard. Why couldn't they put those into the solo MSQ duties periodically to ensure that players knew the basics of gameplay? It's actually kind of insulting, how stupid Square-Enix apparently believes the average player to be.
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    Piush Stumbleine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    Ultimates seem to be the only thing those folks don't whine about. Probably because they just pay for clears...
    Ultimates don't go away
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    Ultimates don't go away
    Ultimates also don't have any player vs player interaction i.e. is not a competition that requires definitive winners and losers.

    Apples and oranges.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Jealousy under the guise of hating on FOMO.

    Sounds dumb and I don't mind the normal person hating on FOMO, but competitions having unique stuff has somehow been bashed regularly like "I am not good enough for xy, therefore I feel it is unfair that I don't have a chance on ABC".

    Always wanting to deny others from having things instead of asking things to be expanded upon. A shame really.
    I'm good enough to get it and I don't like that system. I still think people arguing about "jealousy" and other arguments are just trying to deflect to preserve their petty ego boosters. One has to wonder who is the more fragile between the two sides.
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    Last edited by Valence; 12-19-2022 at 07:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    I'm good enough to get it and I don't like that system. I still think people arguing about "jealousy" and other arguments are just trying to deflect to preserve their petty ego boosters. One has to wonder who is the more fragile between the two sides.
    My brother in christ you're trashing on people wanting high rank rewards while presenting yourself as "not like the other high end pvpers" on every opportunity trying to call our egos fragile for wanting them. Not sure what your agenda is here.

    Im glad for YOU not needing a physical ingame reward and I don't mind if you dislike the system, but going as we do NOW is a sure-fire way for ranked to just go down the shitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    My brother in christ you're trashing on people wanting high rank rewards while presenting yourself as "not like the other high end pvpers" on every opportunity trying to call our egos fragile for wanting them. Not sure what your agenda is here.

    Im glad for YOU not needing a physical ingame reward and I don't mind if you dislike the system, but going as we do NOW is a sure-fire way for ranked to just go down the shitter.
    Because you're doing the exact same thing in reverse on casuals, and it honestly pisses me off to no end. That's my agenda right there
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Honestly at this point I think they should just remove the ranked mode and have a daily CC roulette along with the frontlines roulette (and put the damn rival wings into the frontlines roulette already).

    I don't picture ranked ever being consistently healthy in this game. I thought it would be alright with how fast it was popping in season 1 and 2, but the lack of vendor updates and rewards and the in general not very good ranking system saw it die pretty fast from season 3 to 4.
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    Leyhath Moray
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    The fact that there's no like daily CC thing is just off.

    I probably have a weird perspective as someone who doesn't do PvP much: I liked Ranked CC because I can only assume Casual CC is full of higher tier players trying to practice. Feels like I'm more likely to get people with similar experience. Can't say I've tested this, though.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelar_ View Post
    The fact that there's no like daily CC thing is just off.

    I probably have a weird perspective as someone who doesn't do PvP much: I liked Ranked CC because I can only assume Casual CC is full of higher tier players trying to practice. Feels like I'm more likely to get people with similar experience. Can't say I've tested this, though.
    Generally speaking you will. Ranked is fine till you get past gold and then it dies off. Casual mode is so easy for me that its probably making me pick up bad habits, but sadly its all I got for pvp since diamond+ is impossible to get matches for anymore. Haven't been back to crystal since season 3 because I just don't feel like waiting 20-30 minutes for a 2 minute match.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    I'm probably among the minorities within the crystal rank players but well... That's my personal wish on rewards:

    - No FOMO. I'm okay with previous series rewards coming back on a regular basis, whether it's in vendors or in other series (as long as it doesn't detract from new rewards).
    - No exclusive bullshit rewards that only benefit a handful of players. Total waste a dev resources for misplaced ego/pride and generates toxicity, unnecessary anxiety in ranked games and cheating more than we already have. I'm okay with titles and plates though, that's fine.

    - More casual rewards for all tiers. The higher you rank the faster/easier it is to get them with points or whatever (much like the old wolf collar rewards), but as long as you play ranked, you get them.
    - Easier exchange between wolf marks and crystal trophies, or just merging them, it's obnoxious right now to deal with.

    - Daily CC roulette, even if it gives meh rewards.
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