Remove "Casual" from CC / CC needs another overhaul

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Ultimates don't go away

Ultimates also don't have any player vs player interaction i.e. is not a competition that requires definitive winners and losers.

Apples and oranges.

[Nanne]

Ultimates also don't have any player vs player interaction i.e. is not a competition that requires definitive winners and losers.

Apples and oranges.

Yes but that didn't really have anything to do with what I said I was talking about why people complain less about Ultimates compared to PvP.

[Valence]

Jealousy under the guise of hating on FOMO.

Sounds dumb and I don't mind the normal person hating on FOMO, but competitions having unique stuff has somehow been bashed regularly like "I am not good enough for xy, therefore I feel it is unfair that I don't have a chance on ABC".

Always wanting to deny others from having things instead of asking things to be expanded upon. A shame really.

I'm good enough to get it and I don't like that system. I still think people arguing about "jealousy" and other arguments are just trying to deflect to preserve their petty ego boosters. One has to wonder who is the more fragile between the two sides.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I'm good enough to get it and I don't like that system. I still think people arguing about "jealousy" and other arguments are just trying to deflect to preserve their petty ego boosters. One has to wonder who is the more fragile between the two sides.

My brother in christ you're trashing on people wanting high rank rewards while presenting yourself as "not like the other high end pvpers" on every opportunity trying to call our egos fragile for wanting them. Not sure what your agenda is here.

Im glad for YOU not needing a physical ingame reward and I don't mind if you dislike the system, but going as we do NOW is a sure-fire way for ranked to just go down the shitter.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Yes but that didn't really have anything to do with what I said I was talking about why people complain less about Ultimates compared to PvP.

I get you and I apologize, I meant to quote both of you to put a lid on that conparison.

[Valence]

My brother in christ you're trashing on people wanting high rank rewards while presenting yourself as "not like the other high end pvpers" on every opportunity trying to call our egos fragile for wanting them. Not sure what your agenda is here.

Im glad for YOU not needing a physical ingame reward and I don't mind if you dislike the system, but going as we do NOW is a sure-fire way for ranked to just go down the shitter.

Because you're doing the exact same thing in reverse on casuals, and it honestly pisses me off to no end. That's my agenda right there

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Because you're doing the exact same thing in reverse on casuals, and it honestly pisses me off to no end. That's my agenda right there

What a load of rubbish - my main beef with the modern day casual pvper mindset is them lashing out on high rank players for asking for incentivisation of Ranked, calling it unfair, FOMO, you name it. It is denying someone else's requests at no benefit to oneself that I take a fat issue with.

In fact, if you actually would pay attention half the time, I have been advocating for addition of better reward structures for a long while now, such as but not limited to:
- improvement of the Trophy Crystal vendor
- improvement of Tier rewards to make ALL skill tiers incentivised to play and not just the top 100 players
- improvement of the Top-End ranked structure by perhaps making a slider per datacenter based on participation in Crystal Rank so it is a minimum 100, but dynamically expands beyond if more players were to play

To go beyond this, I have been wishing for CASUAL REWARDS i.e. the Battlepass system way before they even announced the Battlepass so more people would even want to come and play small-scale PvP.

I teach newbies the ropes and help them practice, teach them about matchups and guide them about how to use the map - I consider that part of the playerbase important, as they are the veterans of tomorrow.

Not only is your anger is unfounded, you are borderline projecting at this point.

[Ransu]

Honestly at this point I think they should just remove the ranked mode and have a daily CC roulette along with the frontlines roulette (and put the damn rival wings into the frontlines roulette already).

I don't picture ranked ever being consistently healthy in this game. I thought it would be alright with how fast it was popping in season 1 and 2, but the lack of vendor updates and rewards and the in general not very good ranking system saw it die pretty fast from season 3 to 4.

[angelar_]

The fact that there's no like daily CC thing is just off.

I probably have a weird perspective as someone who doesn't do PvP much: I liked Ranked CC because I can only assume Casual CC is full of higher tier players trying to practice. Feels like I'm more likely to get people with similar experience. Can't say I've tested this, though.

[Ransu]

The fact that there's no like daily CC thing is just off.

I probably have a weird perspective as someone who doesn't do PvP much: I liked Ranked CC because I can only assume Casual CC is full of higher tier players trying to practice. Feels like I'm more likely to get people with similar experience. Can't say I've tested this, though.

Generally speaking you will. Ranked is fine till you get past gold and then it dies off. Casual mode is so easy for me that its probably making me pick up bad habits, but sadly its all I got for pvp since diamond+ is impossible to get matches for anymore. Haven't been back to crystal since season 3 because I just don't feel like waiting 20-30 minutes for a 2 minute match.