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  1. #51
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    dspguy's Avatar
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellita_of_Mtek View Post
    You can only have 1 personal per account, 1 FC per character
    You know, I never bothered looking into the specifics of plot ownership. But 1 FC per character seems like a big mistake on SE's part. Personally, I don't understand the point of having multiple alts on the same service account - aside from buying up an entire ward.
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    You know, I never bothered looking into the specifics of plot ownership. But 1 FC per character seems like a big mistake on SE's part. Personally, I don't understand the point of having multiple alts on the same service account - aside from buying up an entire ward.
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/
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  3. #53
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    You know, I never bothered looking into the specifics of plot ownership. But 1 FC per character seems like a big mistake on SE's part. Personally, I don't understand the point of having multiple alts on the same service account - aside from buying up an entire ward.
    Alts are fun... they're like real people all different.

    With housing the issue is transferring leadership when it comes to Free Companies. Now you need to wait 30 days before you can transfer it unless of course one buys a FC and then deletes that character where the ownership is automatically transferred to whoever is in the FC randomly. If there is only one person in addition to the leader then that person gets the leadership which could be an alt or a FC house buyer.

    Pretty clear the intent is one FC per server per account but that obviously isn't what happens in reality for those willing to abuse the intent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dellita_of_Mtek View Post
    You can only have 1 personal per account, 1 FC per character
    Yes but the intent isn't one FC per character it's one FC per server per account.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 12-09-2022 at 02:17 AM.

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    Trox Bark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Spot on... 1milion per month for a large plot 750k for a medium and 250k for a small one per month counting as tax fees, as for those that own and run within the limit it is no biggie, but if having a full ward... then it is suddenly quite the millions needed in upkeep per month.

    I can only agree to this suggestion.
    And it wouldn't out a single dent into the wealth those players have, plus it only hurts smaller fc. It also runs to risk of these people using bots to generate more gil


    They need to actually enforce the rules and imo have fc member activity requirements.
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  6. #55
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    AngelCheese77's Avatar
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    Bjartur Arnason
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    Found the one who did it.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    You know, I never bothered looking into the specifics of plot ownership. But 1 FC per character seems like a big mistake on SE's part. Personally, I don't understand the point of having multiple alts on the same service account - aside from buying up an entire ward.
    There are a lot of reasons for having multiple alts, none of which have to do with buying more houses.

    Now to get an entire ward... that requires multiple services accounts and not just multiple alts. Now to me that's crazy.

    I agree that one FC per character is a mistake, but that's what SE has chosen to do. They're the ones who have to account to players for lack of house access if they get too many players buying up multiple houses using FCs.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post

    Yes but the intent isn't one FC per character it's one FC per server per account.
    Might be the intent but they specifically left the ability to have one per character in place by their own wording.

    Quote Originally Posted by Troxbark View Post
    And it wouldn't out a single dent into the wealth those players have, plus it only hurts smaller fc. It also runs to risk of these people using bots to generate more gil


    They need to actually enforce the rules and imo have fc member activity requirements.
    No, what they need to do is admit that the ward system comes with too many problems and switch to a fully instanced housing system similar to those used in ESO and RIFT. Then it doesn't matter who has what or how many.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 12-09-2022 at 04:01 AM.

  8. #57
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    More or less why I think there should be rent costs, if not straight up gil then a very very hefty chunks of FC credits could work as well...
    This keeps getting suggested without people realizing it only impacts players with less gil. That FC who barely scrounged together 20M for their Medium may lose it. Meanwhile, someone like myself who has well over 300M wouldn't even blink. SE couldn't make a rental "tax" that would impact someone like me without it being extremely draconian to other players.

    Now I'm just your average crafter who's happened to play for a long time. People with shell FCs typically have several times my gil count. Especially because FC workshops practically print money.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 12-09-2022 at 09:30 AM.
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    Hadrefort Sarmantoix
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    This keeps getting suggested without people realizing it only impacts players with less gil. That FC who barely scrounged together 20M for their Medium may lose it. Meanwhile, someone like myself who has well over 300M wouldn't even blink. SE couldn't make a rental "tax" that would impact someone like me without it being extremely draconian to other players.

    Now I'm just your average crafter who's happened to play for a long time. People with shell FCs typically have several times my gil count. Especially because FC workshops practically print money.
    Again, that is why it is suggested that players who only own 1 personal and 1 FC house per world will get exempted from the housing tax. In the scenario you describe, the FC which scrounge up 20 million for their medium and you yourself will pay ZERO tax if that's the only property you own as intended by by SE's limit. I quote as per SE wording "
    You may only purchase and maintain one private plot and one free company plot per World per service account".

    Anyone who circumvents the limit by exploiting loopholes and owns more than 1 FC house per world will then get taxed on each additional house above the limit. The tax should be substantial enough, say 50% of original plot value per month such that it discourages such hoardong behavior. Any existing multi owners will get the chance to relinquish their excess houses for full value up to a certain deadline or pay the monthly tax if they are still keen on keeping their the excess plots.

    One last suggest to add is to nerf sub income such that you can't rely on it to maintain the house with additional housing tax. This would also have a positive impact on controlling gil inflation. Trust me, you do not want that as I've seen the damage massive inflation has caused to other MMO economy. (Check out SWTOR market economy if you are curious)
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    Player SassyAssassin's Avatar
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    Cinnabun Arulaq
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    Found the one who did it.
    Omg that name hahaha multihousehoarder didn’t even realise
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    SE did. But sadly they should go back and patch it, So after day X the 1st house you enter you keep. All other homes go up for auction.
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