SE need to stop this!

[Hanayumi]

This is how I see it with minimal modifications to current system
1) Close out housing/refund everyone
2) Update apartments with upgradable size feature, allow outdoor furniture indoors, add share ability with alt characters in same server
3) Restrict houses to FC only, add further restrictions to "alt" FCs, and add rent with FC credits

[NekoMataMata]

There are still 4 more servers incoming on the NA side of things which will bring in another load of houses on top of the ward expansions coming soon across all servers. Aren't JP and EU supposed to get new servers too? (My memory is a bit rusty on where we are exactly with the full server expansions they had planned.)

My view still stands though on if people don't want to move to where houses are readily available and want to punish those that did move and are taking plots that are sitting abandoned (especially in the case of Materia), that's a them problem.

Can wait, continue to be mad and post threads like this and hope for a change or do something that's actually possible now and go get a house on a server where there aren't enough people to buy them. If loyalty to an FC or being afraid to be far from friends is holding you back (especially if cross-DC is a thing in your region) consider how much you actually need/want a house.

You know, I'm beginning to get a bit suspicious that you might be a house hoarder yourself considering how you deflected that.

I moved to Dynamis for my house, and I think it's reasonable to ask people to move servers if they want a better chance at getting one. This doesn't change the fact that we cannot and should not allow people to run around hoarding houses. The supply isn't infinite. The issues that plague other servers can happen to new ones.

[LianaThorne]

You know, I'm beginning to get a bit suspicious that you might be a house hoarder yourself considering how you deflected that.

I moved to Dynamis for my house, and I think it's reasonable to ask people to move servers if they want a better chance at getting one. This doesn't change the fact that we cannot and should not allow people to run around hoarding houses. The supply isn't infinite. The issues that plague other servers can happen to new ones.

Can make assumptions however you want, you don't know me and I don't know you. Thankfully the opinions of others don't really bother me anymore.

Never called it infinite, just that there are options available currently and people can move to get one rather than create threads complaining about people buying up houses that people aren't buying otherwise. It just comes off as white knighting for people that aren't there in the first place to buy the houses. If every server in NA was completely dry on FC houses, it would be a bigger issue in my eyes.

Out of the 28 servers in NA, only 6 have 0 FCs houses available (via Paissa Housing) so the issue isn't even plaguing half of the NA servers where people are completely unable to buy an FC. Privates are an entirely different story but there are plenty of FCs to go around if people truly want one. If action should be taken in regards to this then target the servers where they are fully unable to buy one and remove from there since that is an actual problem that should be addressed.

I can drag out stats for EU, OCE and JP if you really want me to as well or can just look for yourself.

[dspguy]

When it comes to accounts owning FCs, can I have a personal on my main and an FC as well... and can I make an alt and have him create an FC (with other signatories) and also have a second FC house on the same service account?

I'm asking because if this guy/girl that has all of these FC plots - are they paying for just a few accounts or are they paying for 30?

[Dellita_of_Mtek]

You can only have 1 personal per account, 1 FC per character

[dspguy]

You can only have 1 personal per account, 1 FC per character

You know, I never bothered looking into the specifics of plot ownership. But 1 FC per character seems like a big mistake on SE's part. Personally, I don't understand the point of having multiple alts on the same service account - aside from buying up an entire ward.

[Deveryn]

You know, I never bothered looking into the specifics of plot ownership. But 1 FC per character seems like a big mistake on SE's part. Personally, I don't understand the point of having multiple alts on the same service account - aside from buying up an entire ward.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/

[LaylaTsarra]

You know, I never bothered looking into the specifics of plot ownership. But 1 FC per character seems like a big mistake on SE's part. Personally, I don't understand the point of having multiple alts on the same service account - aside from buying up an entire ward.

Alts are fun... they're like real people all different.

With housing the issue is transferring leadership when it comes to Free Companies. Now you need to wait 30 days before you can transfer it unless of course one buys a FC and then deletes that character where the ownership is automatically transferred to whoever is in the FC randomly. If there is only one person in addition to the leader then that person gets the leadership which could be an alt or a FC house buyer.

Pretty clear the intent is one FC per server per account but that obviously isn't what happens in reality for those willing to abuse the intent.

You can only have 1 personal per account, 1 FC per character

Yes but the intent isn't one FC per character it's one FC per server per account.

[Jojoya]

You know, I never bothered looking into the specifics of plot ownership. But 1 FC per character seems like a big mistake on SE's part. Personally, I don't understand the point of having multiple alts on the same service account - aside from buying up an entire ward.

There are a lot of reasons for having multiple alts, none of which have to do with buying more houses.

Now to get an entire ward... that requires multiple services accounts and not just multiple alts. Now to me that's crazy.

I agree that one FC per character is a mistake, but that's what SE has chosen to do. They're the ones who have to account to players for lack of house access if they get too many players buying up multiple houses using FCs.

Yes but the intent isn't one FC per character it's one FC per server per account.

Might be the intent but they specifically left the ability to have one per character in place by their own wording.

And it wouldn't out a single dent into the wealth those players have, plus it only hurts smaller fc. It also runs to risk of these people using bots to generate more gil


They need to actually enforce the rules and imo have fc member activity requirements.

No, what they need to do is admit that the ward system comes with too many problems and switch to a fully instanced housing system similar to those used in ESO and RIFT. Then it doesn't matter who has what or how many.

[AngelCheese77]

<3 <3 <3 <3 that is beautiful, so close to perfection.

Found the one who did it.