SE need to stop this!

[NekoMataMata]

More or less why I think there should be rent costs, if not straight up gil then a very very hefty chunks of FC credits could work as well...

People hate it, it's an unfortunate punishment for the rest of us who aren't hoarding but the benefits are there...

I mean people always talk about much inflation there is, how little gold sinks there are... This could help that out, and to top it off, make it more difficult for people to hoard housing units.

Unless that person is doing something shady like buying gil or selling weird services, chances are that making the rent costs each month would take a good chunk of their time. At the least it would force them to interact with all of their accounts a bit more.

[Xeronia]

People hate it, it's an unfortunate punishment for the rest of us who aren't hoarding but the benefits are there...

I mean people always talk about much inflation there is, how little gold sinks there are... This could help that out, and to top it off, make it more difficult for people to hoard housing units.

Unless that person is doing something shady like buying gil or selling weird services, chances are that making the rent costs each month would take a good chunk of their time. At the least it would force them to interact with all of their accounts a bit more.

And all this will accomplish is giving RMT more business as they don't ban the buyers, that is why inflation is such an issue. I see no reason for taxes when a simple rule change would do the trick, taxes would hurt a huge amount of players to spite a minority that again could just be fixed in the future with rule changes like we have already had in regards to personal houses.

[NekoMataMata]

And all this will accomplish is giving RMT more business as they don't ban the buyers, that is why inflation is such an issue. I see no reason for taxes when a simple rule change would do the trick, taxes would hurt a huge amount of players to spite a minority that again could just be fixed in the future with rule changes like we have already had in regards to personal houses.

Or I mean we could do that.

If SE ever decides to look into people hoarding houses and start buying RMT buyers.

[ForteNightshade]

More or less why I think there should be rent costs, if not straight up gil then a very very hefty chunks of FC credits could work as well...

This keeps getting suggested without people realizing it only impacts players with less gil. That FC who barely scrounged together 20M for their Medium may lose it. Meanwhile, someone like myself who has well over 300M wouldn't even blink. SE couldn't make a rental "tax" that would impact someone like me without it being extremely draconian to other players.

Now I'm just your average crafter who's happened to play for a long time. People with shell FCs typically have several times my gil count. Especially because FC workshops practically print money.

[DeNada]

This keeps getting suggested without people realizing it only impacts players with less gil. That FC who barely scrounged together 20M for their Medium may lose it. Meanwhile, someone like myself who has well over 300M wouldn't even blink. SE couldn't make a rental "tax" that would impact someone like me without it being extremely draconian to other players.

Now I'm just your average crafter who's happened to play for a long time. People with shell FCs typically have several times my gil count. Especially because FC workshops practically print money.

Again, that is why it is suggested that players who only own 1 personal and 1 FC house per world will get exempted from the housing tax. In the scenario you describe, the FC which scrounge up 20 million for their medium and you yourself will pay ZERO tax if that's the only property you own as intended by by SE's limit. I quote as per SE wording "
You may only purchase and maintain one private plot and one free company plot per World per service account".

Anyone who circumvents the limit by exploiting loopholes and owns more than 1 FC house per world will then get taxed on each additional house above the limit. The tax should be substantial enough, say 50% of original plot value per month such that it discourages such hoardong behavior. Any existing multi owners will get the chance to relinquish their excess houses for full value up to a certain deadline or pay the monthly tax if they are still keen on keeping their the excess plots.

One last suggest to add is to nerf sub income such that you can't rely on it to maintain the house with additional housing tax. This would also have a positive impact on controlling gil inflation. Trust me, you do not want that as I've seen the damage massive inflation has caused to other MMO economy. (Check out SWTOR market economy if you are curious)

[Gemina]

Don't get me wrong, this is some BS. But at the same time, I think about the time and effort it takes to do this, and it's just sad.

[Deceptus]

Don't get me wrong, this is some BS. But at the same time, I think about the time and effort it takes to do this, and it's just sad.

The fact it even happens at all is a blemish on the FFXIV team. Owning an entire ward shouldn't be possible and should be against the ToS. One FC house per server, one personal house per person (IP address restricted, not account restricted).

Yes it's ridiculous that people spend this much to corner a ward, but SE needs to step in and say "This isn't allowed"

[Gemina]

The fact it even happens at all is a blemish on the FFXIV team. Owning an entire ward shouldn't be possible and should be against the ToS. One FC house per server, one personal house per person (IP address restricted, not account restricted).

Yes it's ridiculous that people spend this much to corner a ward, but SE needs to step in and say "This isn't allowed"

I don't disagree, and I consider the housing situation in this game to be permanent blemish on this team. Their lack of foresight is one of their biggest flaws, and it is what has lead to this situation.

When I say this is sad; it isn't out of any empathy for the culprit(s), or even this housing situation. What is sad is that the devs have to/need to step in at all due to blatant lack of common courtesy for finite luxuries in the game.

[Burmecia]

Well, that sucks, but the rent idea sounds like horribad idea.

Just like the invisible timer.

Just like the lottery.

Why our first reaction is always to wish bad solution to fix bad idea??

[Nepentha]

Well, that sucks, but the rent idea sounds like horribad idea.

Just like the invisible timer.

Just like the lottery.

Why our first reaction is always to wish bad solution to fix bad idea??

Because people are short sighted and immediately leap to punitive ideas that assuage their outrage rather than actual solutions to the problem.

Instanced housing would be a better solution, giving everyone access to housing.