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    Request - A look back to the past, a glance towards the future.. name tentative.

    Subject line is curious, is it not? So here's my proposal..

    I know that when Yoshi-P took over, they basically took all of the former Director's plans and tossed them, essentially rebuilding the game from the very basics and up, tweaking, erasing, but ultimately redoing every aspect of the game as it were before.

    But, my thing is this. Despite how much of a bomb the game turned out to be when it did release, it did involve a lot of time and dedication for the people who worked on it. Many developers spent weeks, months and years? Into the original XIV project. I'd actually hate to see their contributions to the creative world just thrown out.

    I'd like to see a book, concept art of the original XIV as it was and things that were planned that never got implemented and never will, from the former Director's vision. And on the other half of this book, we see Yoshi-P's vision, the concept art for the things to come, or things that have already been given.

    Yoshi-P has done an amazing job pulling the team around towards his new goal. But Yoshi-P doesnt do it all, either. There are several developers that contribute and get overlooked. I would say this could be a way for players, who appreciate the game, or the series as a whole, to keep a piece of their hard work and trials and not let the effort be wasted.

    Thoughts?
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    Neat idea 10
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    I like this idea a lot! This would be really neat!
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    The angels dance like feathers float, they're here to see and to be seen,
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    But I'm still waiting, yeah, and I'm still waiting
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    Aren't concepts and assets leading up to the actualized product often considered company secrets and rarely disclosed unless they are in direct relation to the finished product? Pretty sure this has even sparked up lawsuits in the past, devs having disclosed or "stolen" scrapped content and concepts leading to the company with ownership getting their panties in a bunch.

    With this in mind I think the chances are slim to get anything meaty out of the previous vision for the game other than what was already implemented or revealed, but yeah, it doesn't hurt to ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kibo View Post
    Aren't concepts and assets leading up to the actualized product often considered company secrets and rarely disclosed unless they are in direct relation to the finished product? Pretty sure this has even sparked up lawsuits in the past, devs having disclosed or "stolen" scrapped content and concepts leading to the company with ownership getting their panties in a bunch.

    With this in mind I think the chances are slim to get anything meaty out of the previous vision for the game other than what was already implemented or revealed, but yeah, it doesn't hurt to ask.
    Well, what you said is key - its company property, to do with as they see fit. The developers do not own anything, if they did it in SE's office, for the intent of a SE product, then the higher ups have the ultimate say in what happens with the concept art, or anything else for that matter. So, if Yoshi-P were to take this idea to his boss's, they would have the ultimate say in whether or not to allow it or not. If they do, then no, there shouldn't be any lawsuits to come of this.

    If it was just a random developer who saw this and thought to himself "you know, yeah, I want people to remember my work.." then that's wrong and losing their job would be the least of their issues I'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akujin View Post
    Well, what you said is key - its company property, to do with as they see fit. The developers do not own anything, if they did it in SE's office, for the intent of a SE product, then the higher ups have the ultimate say in what happens with the concept art, or anything else for that matter. So, if Yoshi-P were to take this idea to his boss's, they would have the ultimate say in whether or not to allow it or not. If they do, then no, there shouldn't be any lawsuits to come of this.

    If it was just a random developer who saw this and thought to himself "you know, yeah, I want people to remember my work.." then that's wrong and losing their job would be the least of their issues I'm sure.
    Haha yeah I doubt any lawsuits would come out of this particular idea as it's an internal thing. I was more referring to actual cases of people with inside knowledge disclosing it without the company's express permission and how fast they are reprimanded for it. Just to better paint a picture of how secretive and unlikely companies are to disclose any unused and/or scrapped game concepts and assets to the public.

    It's a shame indeed that it's treated as company property instead of creative work, but hey what if a competitor got their dirty hands on YOUR trade secrets oh what would you ever do better safe than sorry must file lawsuits oh my /paranoia

    I've been told I rarely make sense but I guess what I'm trying to say is that if a company like NCSoft is willing to go that far for assets that were supposedly stolen, I doubt they would release said assets freely had the circumstances been different. TLDR I'm trying to be a party pooper.
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