Playing an expansion as current content has been a lacklustre MMO experience

[AnnRam]

I remember back in 2.0 (Balmung) when Mordh was full of people gathering around doing content , every map outside the major cities were full of life.

Talking or interacting with people was really easy and you could make tons of friends just in one day instead of ;

-Check my ccard.
- ooc/ ic =).
-accept my terms and conditions before approaching.
-read my bio before sending a /tell
-im struggling with anxiety so I may not reply.
- erp only
- +18 profiles!

Jobs despite being locked between cross skills all of them were unique. Seriously how I miss ARR×HS so much.

[Deveryn]

I remember back in 2.0 (Balmung) when Mordh was full of people gathering around doing content , every map outside the major cities were full of life.

Talking or interacting with people was really easy and you could make tons of friends just in one day instead of ;

-Check my ccard.
- ooc/ ic =).
-accept my terms and conditions before approaching.
-read my bio before sending a /tell
-im struggling with anxiety so I may not reply.
- erp only
- +18 profiles!

Jobs despite being locked between cross skills all of them were unique. Seriously how I miss ARR×HS so much.

Wow. Imagine people not being all the same socially.

[Raoabolic]

Wow. Imagine people not being all the same socially.

So you are in favor of erp in XIV? What a weird stance to take. Though I guess it's not surprising, lol.

[Deveryn]

So you are in favor of erp in XIV? What a weird stance to take. Though I guess it's not surprising, lol.

What's weird is picking that up out of all the possibilities. People can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't negatively impact me. ERP is not a new thing. People have been doing it since EQ and probably earlier than that. The only difference now is people can be more clear and upfront about it, with these profile spaces to indicate as much.

[Raoabolic]

What's weird is picking that up out of all the possibilities. People can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't negatively impact me. ERP is not a new thing. People have been doing it since EQ and probably earlier than that. The only difference now is people can be more clear and upfront about it, with these profile spaces to indicate as much.

I'm just saying it's weird that you are upfront about defending erp, that's all! It's SE's game so they can do whatever they want with it.

[Deveryn]

I'm just saying it's weird that you are upfront about defending erp, that's all! It's SE's game so they can do whatever they want with it.

I've been clear about my stance on that shit. Keep it out of the public channels. I'm defending those with social anxieties, likely caused by people like you and that other person.

[Raoabolic]

I've been clear about my stance on that shit. Keep it out of the public channels. I'm defending those with social anxieties, likely caused by people like you and that other person.

"People can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't negatively impact me. ERP is not a new thing."
"The only difference now is people can be more clear and upfront about it"
Pick a lane m8. Also, pretty rude of you to assume I somehow cause social anxieties. Funny enough I can say the same about you and how many can't express how they feel without people like you telling them how wrong they are while throwing out your hot take for them to assimilate.

[Deveryn]

"People can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't negatively impact me. ERP is not a new thing."
"The only difference now is people can be more clear and upfront about it"
Pick a lane m8. Also, pretty rude of you to assume I somehow cause social anxieties. Funny enough I can say the same about you and how many can't express how they feel without people like you telling them how wrong they are while throwing out your hot take for them to assimilate.

Don't talk to me about staying in a lane. You're the one accusing me of being some kind of pervert. This and other bullshit are the legit more toxic behaviours in this community. I was just having a chat with someone the other day and they were telling me how uncomfortable they were made to feel about progressing MSQ and being told how they should like this character and that quest.

My commentary and responses are not in the same category. I'm not telling anyone to assimilate. I'm telling people to think for themselves and look after themselves. Here, it all boils down to doing oneself a favor and knowing when to take breaks. Diadem: I was getting into the differences between zones and posing alternative for activities to do during queue times. If you actually have a legit difference of opinion, I'm happy to discuss it, but you and others just want to spew bullshit and try and paint me as something I'm not. At that point, I've lost all respect and have no care for civility or even continuing the convo. The only counters I ever see to any of my points tend to be something unrelated or a personal attack, but I'm somehow wrong for having a difference of opinion in the first place.

[Jojoya]

yea and how many we get of those per Xpac? 3 or 4? and that on top of ARR and HW ones being way more casual than midcore if anything, Thordan probably the sole exception out of those.

Low number aside, It only cover trials... Where midcore dungeon? Where Midcore quests? Why not some midcore FATE while we're at it? I would consider solo-Deep dungeon and Eureka/Boznia midcore, but their difficulty is more class dependant than anything else

You need to do a better job of defining what you expect when you say "midcore" content.

Correct, the game lacks midcore dungeons or even high end dungeons other than Criterion. I think the hard mode dungeons from ARR and HW might have originally been intended to develop into midcore content but SE ended up deviating from that plan. Why? Only SE knows.

Midcore quests? What would those even be? Give an example. Quests are generally for world building and lore expansion. The dumbest thing a game developer could do is block a casual player out of that type of content.

Midcore FATEs? Let me introduce to you Chi, Daivadipa, Formidable, Archaeotania, etc. Easy enough to zerg when 100 players show up during peak hours. An entirely different ballgame during off peak and only 12 players show up. It can be done if you start earlier in the timer but you need everyone to be on the ball and not constantly dying to mechanics (which I hope is the type of difficulty level you're expecting from midcore).

Any group content tackled solo is going to end up job dependent to some degree so it sounds like you're trying to make up excuses to be dismissive instead of credit it as being midcore at the player's discretion.

As much as you say you're not trying to compare to other MMOs, you're going to need to do that to show how the problem is specific to this game as opposed to being shared within the genre. What are other MMOs doing better for midcore players than FFXIV is? Mythic+ in Wow is an obvious example but what are others?

[Amenara]

I think the criterion stuff was an opportunity for midcore content that SE whiffed pretty hard on.

I would love for them to revisit Hard mode dungeons and actually rebalance them and add mechanics to make them more difficult and to add some diversity into gearing other than tomestones and savage. I think they could also use it as a way to test ideas to add some variety into mechanics like I remember a few of the old hard dungeons did. They weren't always good but it added some new things which made it different. I don't even care if they change the aesthetic of the dungeons like they did with the old hard modes, I just want them to try out things like different amounts of packs of mobs between forced walls, or even removing the forced walls. Trying out adding mechanics to mob packs more than move out of orange circle/line. Make use of healer CC on some pulls by having mini bosses in trash packs that need to be CCed. I guess I am saying I just want them to try new things instead of every single dungeon being pull 2 groups of mobs, aoe them down, do it again, kill boss and repeat 2 more times.