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    Rockette's Avatar
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    Rocket Teira
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    White Mage Lv 90

    Feeling really down about no mog gifts for Christmas

    We have traditionally run a Secret Santa Christmas event every year. It was my absolute favourite community event. Everyone gets dressed up, we dress the house up and give sit around Santa to give our gifts.

    By far the most popular gifts were mounts and minions. I cannot think of one incident in all the years we've been doing this that someone bought something for someone that already had it. You simply check your recipients lodestone or those collectors sites to see what people already have before you buy.

    The reason Mog gifts were so popular is because we have a large community of casual players who just have not got enough gil to buy what they'd like. Working professionals who'd rather spend money.

    We also had our community split in half with players leaving for OCE while the rest of us stayed on NA for various raid committments. Mogstation gifts would have let us still run our event cross region (if people chose to use Mog, I would have organised an "either or" for cross region.)

    Now it's like, we've split up, we can't give gifts other than fantasia or dye... do we bother? It just feels like the FU icing on top of the crap cake that is being an OCE player this year.

    Just a rant. I know SE will change nothing.
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    Aserana Swian
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    Of course they won't change anything.

    Their bottom line and ability to continue to accept credit/debit cards is much more important than your faux greeting card holiday.
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Christmas isn't about gifts. It's about hanging out with friends, family, and loved ones. Actually Christmas isn't even in the equation...it should always be about the people...365 days of the year.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    We're three months out from when they first stopped gifting. If you're still stuck on this then maybe you need to look at yourself and this situation because this isn't what Christmas is about. It's about time to stop being so hung up on sending these gifts out and accept that you'll have to take alternative routes to gift giving. I have a friend that started sending people the cash value for items they might like. You can argue that it's thoughtless, but buying specific gifts doesn't require much thought either. Generosity is generosity, whatever form it takes.
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    There is nothing stopping you from gifting within the game.

    This is something I take great joy in- I give away as many Santa outfits as people want for about a week leading to xmas on Tonberry. Like 500 sets a year. It’s a fantastic time to do stuff like this and make people smile.

    A lot of the near 1mil gil mounts and minions are pretty good as gifts- kinda expensive that people hesitate, but will be happy to get.
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    Rocket Teira
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    We're three months out from when they first stopped gifting. If you're still stuck on this then maybe you need to look at yourself and this situation because this isn't what Christmas is about. It's about time to stop being so hung up on sending these gifts out and accept that you'll have to take alternative routes to gift giving. I have a friend that started sending people the cash value for items they might like. You can argue that it's thoughtless, but buying specific gifts doesn't require much thought either. Generosity is generosity, whatever form it takes.
    Hmm sending cash might be the answer, actually. I didn't think of that. It does take the "secret" out but its better than nothing.
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    Last edited by Rockette; 12-03-2022 at 05:00 PM.

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    Player SeiyaSoiya's Avatar
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    Hariette Reina-cuento
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateRyanG View Post
    Of course they won't change anything.

    Their bottom line and ability to continue to accept credit/debit cards is much more important than your faux greeting card holiday.
    that makes me wonder, who is REALLY being effed over by RMT and bots?
    I see people complain about bots ingame all the time but it never amounts to nothing more than them being mildly annoyed for the 3 min they stay inside a major city
    yet there's tons and tons and tons of effort made to quell RMT and botting, including restricting players from gifting items.
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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    that makes me wonder, who is REALLY being effed over by RMT and bots?
    I see people complain about bots ingame all the time but it never amounts to nothing more than them being mildly annoyed for the 3 min they stay inside a major city
    yet there's tons and tons and tons of effort made to quell RMT and botting, including restricting players from gifting items.
    Quite a few people get effed over because they get scammed. Accounts and credit cards get compromised and this summer was particularly bad. Credit bureaus put the pressure on SE to do something about it because there were so many chargebacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Quite a few people get effed over because they get scammed. Accounts and credit cards get compromised and this summer was particularly bad. Credit bureaus put the pressure on SE to do something about it because there were so many chargebacks.
    I thought their solution was friend to friend only + they can see who is buying and receiving, yet they limit the items anyway.
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    Vivian Rysto
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    I mean, I'm a bit annoyed by the whole thing but I'm gifting other stuff. Namely, actual hand crafted stuff!
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