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  1. #1
    Player
    dspguy's Avatar
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 100
    It should come as no surprise that people would lie about their progression to their own benefit. Sadly, it isn't like the server communities are small enough that a player would be blacklisted (and I don't mean the in-game chat option) across the server. A player that lies about their progression might be kicked by a group and then that player just scams another group. That's the Eorzea we live in. Doesn't make it right.
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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I feel the need to explain myself, as I have frequently engaged in progress skipping - successfully, mind you.

    I am a genuinely fast learner and I use POV videos and guides to learn fights if I don't progress blind. I know, most do this, but I do this not only to understand the fight but also practice it.

    Now, why do I do ? Because I am tired of people addressing themselves as "x prog" when the average person joining is clearly not practiced enough (reaching a point in a fight with four corpses twice is not your prog point) or is trying to do the skipping like me without having the remaining required skillsets to pull it off.

    Ive joined statics this way. Sometimes I was honest and told them "you wont be able to tell the difference". Other times I told them after raid.

    Im 100% part of the problem, but unlike people similar to me, others try to replicate, failing ofc.

    Don't do what I do.
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    Kevin Satron
    World
    Typhon
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    i lie about my prog point all the time, and it help me prog the fight
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    Chryden Speakel
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    I have a few extreme cases on my BL.
    Like, there was this one player who joined a clear group and watched the cutscene. He said it is a alt but I called it bs to myself but wanted to give it a try.

    He wiped us for 30min at the first mechanics and we then disbanded.
    The player went on my blacklist.

    A few days later I joined another prog group.
    It filled and we we didn't queue in. Then someone asked me why I don't answer my co-tank. Well it was the time waster and I didn't notice it.
    So I told the group that he is on my BL for joining a clear party without knowing the fight and that I will leave and find another group because he was first in this one.

    About a hour later I got a random DM from someone who was in that party and they told me that it was a trap group because of the tank and they did not even got close to the mechanic they wanted to prog.

    So he got a little "permanent" behind his name on my .txt blacklist.
    So yea, these extreme cases do not work.

    But it can also be different.
    I've also joined group's that want to practice one mechanic further then I have played, but I only join these groups when I've seen guide's and povs and I'm 99% sure about how the mechanic work's.
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    Seijuro Kibagami
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lieri View Post
    I have something for you to watch
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbz10IvihQw

    PS: Due to how savage mechanics work, you lying about your prog point won't get you a clear any faster - you'll just kill other people and stall their progress. You need to learn how the mechanics work, practice it with groups that are within similar prog point until you're comfortable. Not expecting 100% flawless mech execution but please be considerate of other people's time.
    Kick people from the party who lie about their progress and are holding the team back.
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    The best option is always list your prog point 2 mechanics ahead of the mechanic you're actually aiming to progress. Then people who have progressed solidly to your mechanic but only browsed a guide on the next 2 mechanics, or saw them once with only a tank alive and 12 deaths, will join the party and you'll be at a fairly even point. Most of the time. Hopefully. Maybe. Have fun.
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    Ya Ni
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    If that pf shows a shiny green practice, its all the same prog to me.
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    Kurotora Iga
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Too All Savage and Ultimate people... why do you always follow the same strategy?!? and never alternate?

    It also smell of something else... not being able to step in your own footsteps either.
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    Ya Ni
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Too All Savage and Ultimate people... why do you always follow the same strategy?!? and never alternate?

    It also smell of something else... not being able to step in your own footsteps either.
    If people are all on the same page of what to do there is less toes getting stepped on when aoe circles are involved.
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