Do we want another 10 years of FF14 on this engine?

[Deveryn]

At least we can always rely on Reap00 showing up out of the blue to give a thread an important condescending and dismissive post...

Where is the lie in what they said?

[IkaraGreydancer]

I mean they could do that and with it bring sweeping changes but then you risk what happened with Pso2 to Pso2NG. It pretty much killed the playerbase

[Katt_Felista]

The code is actually very well optimized for when you enter dungeons or raid instances to maximize performance, hence why you are cut from the outside world and can't whisper other players while doing them. Yes it was with console limitations in mind, but still, that specific area is allowing raids / dungeons to run extremely well even on very low spec hardware.

I know the envy to see Square Enix's talent unleashed on almost unlimited POWER hardware like pc's, but seeing the turn of philosophy even from polyphony digital that look more and more comfortably to launch their gran turismo Titles on pc platform... The mold is slowly breaking, unfortunately, it is very slow and japanese mentality about this is still in a mix of traditional rigidity but it goes hand in hand with overly professional care for their craft.

[SigmaOZ]

@OP Nooo!.


Lots of beautiful-looking games coming out in the next years, I doubt players will continue to subscribe to an old MMO that refuses to change visually.


Be it a remake or a direct sequel I would welcome a new Final Fantasy XIV as I'm getting tired of this one, I don't think an MMO should last more than ten years and to expect to have players subscribed for so long is absurd.


If I were Square-Enix's CEO I would have started making the next MMO two years ago, they'd wish they had done it when the player-base begins to thin.

[Deveryn]

@OP Nooo!.


Lots of beautiful-looking games coming out in the next years, I doubt players will continue to subscribe to an old MMO that refuses to change visually.


Be it a remake or a direct sequel I would welcome a new Final Fantasy XIV as I'm getting tired of this one, I don't think an MMO should last more than ten years and to expect to have players subscribed for so long is absurd.


If I were Square-Enix's CEO I would have started making the next MMO two years ago, they'd wish they had done it when the player-base begins to thin.

Everquest is going on 25+ years. "Beauty" isn't everything.

[Atelier-Bagur]

@OP Nooo!.


Lots of beautiful-looking games coming out in the next years, I doubt players will continue to subscribe to an old MMO that refuses to change visually.


Be it a remake or a direct sequel I would welcome a new Final Fantasy XIV as I'm getting tired of this one, I don't think an MMO should last more than ten years and to expect to have players subscribed for so long is absurd.


If I were Square-Enix's CEO I would have started making the next MMO two years ago, they'd wish they had done it when the player-base begins to thin.

WoW likes to say hello

[RobynDaBank]

WoW likes to say hello

But... WoW had an engine change in WoD?

[PirateRyanG]

But... WoW had an engine change in WoD?

I think you are conflating the idea of an engine change and a graphics or engine upgrade.

WOW has never changed engines. It has upgraded the engine.

The graphics engine is still built on the core Warcraft III graphics engine with a couple of changes here and there. The biggest change did come with WOD, but that was a graphical overhaul. They didn't swap out the engine.

The overall engine is the same engine that WOW launched with back in 2004.

[RobynDaBank]

I think you are conflating the idea of an engine change and a graphics or engine upgrade.

WOW has never changed engines. It has upgraded the engine.

The graphics engine is still built on the core Warcraft III graphics engine with a couple of changes here and there. The biggest change did come with WOD, but that was a graphical overhaul. They didn't swap out the engine.

The overall engine is the same engine that WOW launched with back in 2004.

Fair, but to say it refused to visually change (which is what they replied to) is incorrect. You can see the differences between Classic and Retail even right now.

[VelKallor]

But... WoW had an engine change in WoD?

No, i didnt, and it never has either.

its the same wheezing, bug riddled old engine in desperate need of an upgrade..then again the entire game needs a massive overhaul, not the least of which is to move to modern day gaming paradigms, losing the FOMO aspects and their current predatory models to keep you subbed through a humungous list of mandatory daily chores, getting rid of "wurld pee vee pee" and quite frankly, needs to move towards respecting players time.

That INCLUDES disposing of their useless, archaic, outdated ,worthless "faction war", which passed its use by date ten years ago.

Much more needs to be acct wide, cross faction needs to be fully implemented ACROSS THE BOARD, along with closing and merging a lot of their ghost town servers. They are bleeding players, I very much doubt their new expac will do well for long in terms of retention for the reason that in the end its "raid, pvp or do m plus, if not get out" mentality will serve to show that the devs have learned NOTHING in that last decade.

Simple research will show that as far as open world is concerned, they have done very little to keep people occupied and engaged. Even their vaunted " copy of Palace of the Dead" became yet another mandatory grind, instead of what it could have conceivably been.

What WOW needs is a new engine, a new approach, fresh faces and eyes.

As it is, the game is stagnant , will continue to lose players when the new car smell wears off players will see what they have left is the same as all other expacs, one long grind after another.

I am sure people will tell me how many copies they sold "Its a success", big whoop...now tell me how many will be left after a few months.