Do we want another 10 years of FF14 on this engine?

[Necrotica]

They say they have a 10 year plan for this game.

But the server ticks, housing limitations, animation limitations, spaghetti code, etc etc etc.

Devs will often say they can't do xyz because of limitations of the engine. They acknowledge that they can't make the game better because of it.

Do we really want another 10 years in this? Or would we rather get FFXIV-2?

[Renalt]

Only if it is used and the coding is built from the ground up...so they better understand what they are doing.

[ThaCa]

I would like to see more modern take eventually. Building everything from ground up is big undertakement and will take few years at least though, but then again reworking a lot of the main jankiness that hinders current system is huge undertakement too.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Fixing it would require SE to put the money the game makes back into the game. Not holding my breath on it.

[Midareyukki]

I don't think we have a choice? It's nearly impossible for them to just drop what they're doing and migrate everything. It'd require a lot of money, a lot of servers, a lot of manpower... There's no way SE would allow for that.

[PirateRyanG]

You don't have a choice.

It is rare an active game will change its engine.

Yes. FF14 did at one point, but that was an exceptional case that cost them a ton of cash.

The only other game I can think of that did this is Rust, and it essentially received no updates for a ton of time during that process.

Minecraft did too, but it now has two versions of the game so it doesn't really count. The Minecraft switch was for financial reasons.

I think gamers don't realise that most engines we have now have been kicking around for decades (and they are just upgraded engines of what we had before). You can't just switch an engine. It takes a whopping amount of work.

[Eraden]

You don't have a choice.

It is rare an active game will change its engine.

Yes. FF14 did at one point, but that was an exceptional case that cost them a ton of cash.

The only other game I can think of that did this is Rust, and it essentially received no updates for a ton of time during that process.

Minecraft did too, but it now has two versions of the game so it doesn't really count. The Minecraft switch was for financial reasons.

I think gamers don't realise that most engines we have now have been kicking around for decades (and they are just upgraded engines of what we had before). You can't just switch an engine. It takes a whopping amount of work.

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't ANET do a major engine upgrade for Guild Wars 2 not long ago? Does an engine upgrade become an engine change if it is big enough?

[PirateRyanG]

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't ANET do a major engine upgrade for Guild Wars 2 not long ago? Does an engine upgrade become an engine change if it is big enough?

I think Guild Wars 2 only updated their engine for DX11.

[keichirou]

You don't have a choice.

It is rare an active game will change its engine.

Yes. FF14 did at one point, but that was an exceptional case that cost them a ton of cash.

The only other game I can think of that did this is Rust, and it essentially received no updates for a ton of time during that process.

Minecraft did too, but it now has two versions of the game so it doesn't really count. The Minecraft switch was for financial reasons.

I think gamers don't realise that most engines we have now have been kicking around for decades (and they are just upgraded engines of what we had before). You can't just switch an engine. It takes a whopping amount of work.

Blade and soul did it
Black desert is planning to do one and eve online has done several graphical updates and is planning to change engine in 2023 iirc
even an old ass game called martial heroes got a engine update, among others , remember these games have a very low budget compared to ffxiv

i dont see any good reason why SE wouldn't