Do we want another 10 years of FF14 on this engine?

[Necrotica]

They say they have a 10 year plan for this game.

But the server ticks, housing limitations, animation limitations, spaghetti code, etc etc etc.

Devs will often say they can't do xyz because of limitations of the engine. They acknowledge that they can't make the game better because of it.

Do we really want another 10 years in this? Or would we rather get FFXIV-2?

[Renalt]

Only if it is used and the coding is built from the ground up...so they better understand what they are doing.

[ThaCa]

I would like to see more modern take eventually. Building everything from ground up is big undertakement and will take few years at least though, but then again reworking a lot of the main jankiness that hinders current system is huge undertakement too.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Fixing it would require SE to put the money the game makes back into the game. Not holding my breath on it.

[Midareyukki]

I don't think we have a choice? It's nearly impossible for them to just drop what they're doing and migrate everything. It'd require a lot of money, a lot of servers, a lot of manpower... There's no way SE would allow for that.

[PirateRyanG]

You don't have a choice.

It is rare an active game will change its engine.

Yes. FF14 did at one point, but that was an exceptional case that cost them a ton of cash.

The only other game I can think of that did this is Rust, and it essentially received no updates for a ton of time during that process.

Minecraft did too, but it now has two versions of the game so it doesn't really count. The Minecraft switch was for financial reasons.

I think gamers don't realise that most engines we have now have been kicking around for decades (and they are just upgraded engines of what we had before). You can't just switch an engine. It takes a whopping amount of work.

[Aurikai]

I could care less about the engine, it's the content, you can't blame lack of PvE content and poor class design on an engine.

[PirateRyanG]

I could care less about the engine, it's the content, you can't blame lack of PvE content and poor class design on an engine.

Technically, you could blame both of those on an engine.

[Necrotica]

I could care less about the engine, it's the content, you can't blame lack of PvE content and poor class design on an engine.

You kinda can? At least the design portion. Instant/snappy combat is not possible here. Look at PVP. No amount of class design refinement can fix the responsiveness of the game.

[Enkidoh]

Why? FFXI still runs on the same old PS2/DX8 era engine 20 years after it was launched. Why should FFXIV ARR be any different if it's reasonably stable?

Incidentally this game was never designed to have 'instant' combat in the first place, so if you're expecting that, you'll forever be unsatisfied I'm afraid, and that is completely unreleated to the graphics engine.

Besides, this whole arguement is pointless anyway because Yoshi revealed ages ago they actually are working on a graphical enhancement for the game. Just have patience.