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  1. 12-01-2022 02:41 PM #31
    VictorSpoils
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Honestly just make it a flat 15% of your maximum hp and call it a day.
    It already is. This would just be a nerf in ARR content where it heals more than that.
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  2. 12-01-2022 03:05 PM #32
    Zaniel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limecat View Post
    I'd be happy if they'd just cut down the CD by 30 seconds. Or better yet, add a new Lv90-relevant potion.
    Agree, I'd rather have a relevant L90 potion than any change to Second Wind.
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  3. 12-01-2022 03:15 PM #33
    Jettinson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limecat View Post
    I'd be happy if they'd just cut down the CD by 30 seconds. Or better yet, add a new Lv90-relevant potion.
    Probably a new potion at this point? At least for newest DD it would make sense.
    HQ Max Potion is really good for ARR-HW for example
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  4. 12-01-2022 11:03 PM #34
    Deceptus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    Probably a new potion at this point? At least for newest DD it would make sense.
    HQ Max Potion is really good for ARR-HW for example
    I always keep a decent supply of HQ Super Potions and HQ Max Potions for when I get in synced content via roulettes and as a tank the mitigation tools are . . . lacking.

    It does suck they stopped adding potions, even if they just kept the % of max HP relatively constant and increased the allowable numbers.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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  5. 12-02-2022 12:09 AM #35
    Rithy255
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    No second wind is a niche self sustain support ability it should stay, it's actually useful if you dont want to eat up a healer cd or gcd.
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  6. 12-02-2022 01:27 AM #36
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    Second wind has saved my life a lot of times.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!
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  7. 12-02-2022 03:15 AM #37
    Themarvin
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    It may be the one skill that you need to be able to sustain certain things in harder content.. and it is a last resort move... believing it has no uses is irrelevant, because it has... it can mean you do full damage through a raid instead of reduced after having been revived.

    It is a good move to have as a backup.
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  8. 12-02-2022 06:16 AM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    Just to correct this, they haven't had the trait since SB when the role actions were introduced and, to go on from that, no job has any traits that directly affect Role Actions.
    ahh ok ty didn't know if there was a change
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  9. 12-02-2022 06:24 AM #39
    DiaDeem
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    If you're not using Second Wind, you should be sent back to the Hall of the Novice. It's that simple. Sorry.
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    Last edited by DiaDeem; 12-02-2022 at 08:46 AM.
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  10. 12-02-2022 09:43 AM #40
    Deceptus
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    If you're not using Second Wind, you should be sent back to the Hall of the Novice. It's that simple. Sorry.
    Never said I didn't use it, just that it's heal to CD ratio is ridiculously small.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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