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  1. #21
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    You'd have to lower its potency with a 60s CD. Its an emergency heal and its fine the way it is. If you need it more often than every 2 minutes the fight is already going bad anyways.
    Yeah. You would definitely need to have a little talk with your healer(s).
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    That's all we need is to make all other classes with PvP sustainability and make healers even more boring to play. Second Wind helps you stay up a bit longer. It's not meant to be a huge heal.

    If you got the abilities you should be using them in rotation. Start with Second Wind...when low again hit up Bloodbath if you have it, Full duration bloodbath should put you back up to a safer spot till you need it again. Bloodbath again and when that duration is over you should have 2nd wind back. Repeat as necessary. Even better with Monk cause Riddle of Earth + Mantra farther makes you take less damage while healing more. If ranged physical you have tools to keep them or yourself away so you don't need bloodbath but at least have Second Wind. Kiting is your friend.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Mike Aettir
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Latarma View Post
    Monk get the trait that makes second wind even better if i remember right. so other melees don't get that we get the base from of second wind.
    Just to correct this, they haven't had the trait since SB when the role actions were introduced and, to go on from that, no job has any traits that directly affect Role Actions.
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    Zurvan
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    Fisher Lv 58
    @OP

    It actually prevented me from dying a lot of times playing melee. Its not a healer level heal. Its meant for emergencies.
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    Last edited by Gember; 12-01-2022 at 11:47 AM.

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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    It can't heal more than 50% of baseline when it crits (that's they way crits work)
    so let me get this straight...

    your signature says "give healers something to do" which would be, I dont know.. healing... and yet you want to buff an ability so you dont have to heal?

    yeah, we get it, you just want to dps more...
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    Tlachtga Ereshkigal
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    You'd have to lower its potency with a 60s CD. Its an emergency heal and its fine the way it is. If you need it more often than every 2 minutes the fight is already going bad anyways.
    or just give the phys ranged the m.def of casters, since they lack the extra survivability skill all melee have. and bloodbath.
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    Limecat Indignatio
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I'd be happy if they'd just cut down the CD by 30 seconds. Or better yet, add a new Lv90-relevant potion.
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    Tlachtga Ereshkigal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    so let me get this straight...

    your signature says "give healers something to do" which would be, I dont know.. healing... and yet you want to buff an ability so you dont have to heal?

    yeah, we get it, you just want to dps more...
    what a baffling conclusion to reach. so focussed on sticking it to OP you forgot to make sense.

    there's no "dpsing more" . we aren't in Heavensward anymore. there's no choice between "healing or dmg", its always "dmg + healing ogcd" in 95% of the content.
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  9. #29
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    Feline Good
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    Paladin Lv 50
    We're really complaining about second wind of all things now?
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Noo, not my Second Wind!
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