Second Wind is a terrible ability and either needs redesigned or outright removed.

[Iyrnthota]

It has definitely, saved me on more than one clutch occasion.
That said, as a casual player, generally speaking it is kinda underwhelming.

I don't use it 90% of the time, and 90% of the time I do use it, it's unnecessary, or didn't/wouldn't have saved me anyway.

I don't really do much if any savage or higher, but I watch a lot of progs and the like, and "personals" often comes up, so I figure it must have more utility in higher end fights where allowing healers more dps time can be crucial.

[Renalt]

I use it a lot but notice it does get a little outshined by Bloodbath at later levels. Just adding a trait where it gets a small potency boost per milestone would make it a bit more useful. However if doing group content...you won't really need to use it. Solo though? Very nice to have.

[Limecat]

For what it's worth in case anyone didn't know, they did in fact add a new potion tier for 6.3: Hyper Potions. 11k heal on the HQ version, so we got exactly what we needed.

[Midareyukki]

For what it's worth in case anyone didn't know, they did in fact add a new potion tier for 6.3: Hyper Potions. 11k heal on the HQ version, so we got exactly what we needed.

I don't use potions, but the few times I have tried using items, they had a large animation lock :s

Assuming I'm remembering right, wouldn't that interfere with your rotation? Because Second Wind can at least be double-weaved.

[Alaray]

i just used it on my reaper, which has 58781 HP rn, and it healed for 8576 on a non crit, which is closer to like... 14%~ than 7%

either way, it's saved my life more times than i can count and it's completely free to push so...

idk, i feel like it does it's job well and it can be mapped to a timeline to help healers during a part that may be difficult for them.

sure you can use a hp pot i guess, losing the weave space + losing the usage of a damage potion instead. kind of a heavier tradeoff.

idk why tanks soloing a normal raid came up but normal raids do basically 0 damage and have no enrage so yeah they're kind of easy to solo and it's not really an indicator of balance.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I don't use potions, but the few times I have tried using items, they had a large animation lock :s

Assuming I'm remembering right, wouldn't that interfere with your rotation? Because Second Wind can at least be double-weaved.

It has the same animation lock as our tinctures (and any consumables basically), so yes. They have to be single weaved. Those prisms are great substitute to practice weaving tinctures.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Second Wind could definitely be reworked to be a bit stronger, since all I want it to be able to do is at least consistently once per fight push people high enough to survive a raidwide which would be useful for fights where back to back spreading mechanics occur so healers don't need to run to the middle, throw out insta cast AoEs and run back to their positions in between.

[Renathras]

1) It barely heals for 10% of the user's max HP, often less than that (6-8%). Potency based heals on non healers don't heal for much.

On the one hand, and as a healer main, it's already annoying that DPS heal for so much.

...but in a practical sense, yeah, it's stupid. Either just remove it or do something else with it. It's also weird that we have Second Wind...but also Bloodbath. I get CDs, but why not just make one ability? Half the duration of BB, give it half Wind's heal, and then half the CD so it's available more often. It's stupid that a potion heals more than it anyway.

It's basically SMN Physic. Which is its own kind of stupid when RDM's Vercure is sitting right there with Dual cast...

[Renalt]

On the one hand, and as a healer main, it's already annoying that DPS heal for so much.

...but in a practical sense, yeah, it's stupid. Either just remove it or do something else with it. It's also weird that we have Second Wind...but also Bloodbath. I get CDs, but why not just make one ability? Half the duration of BB, give it half Wind's heal, and then half the CD so it's available more often. It's stupid that a potion heals more than it anyway.

It's basically SMN Physic. Which is its own kind of stupid when RDM's Vercure is sitting right there with Dual cast...

I like it because it is something to use when BB is on CD. If I'm injured and I'm not trusting the healer ( if group content ) I'll BB first. It'll either top me off if no raodwides or I can avoid damage or it'll keep me from being worse off than I was. Then I'll trigger Second Wind if I notice the next raidwide will floor me. Soon after BB should be up so I can use that yet again.

[MsQi]

10% is fine