Do folks actually believe spamming macros is useful in Frontlines?

[Gserpent]

Had a couple of games this evening wherein one person, usually queued with a couple of lickspittles to support them, spammed sound effect macros throughout the game. We, of course, lost both of those games by a fair margin.

Yet when I asked them to chill out with the sound effect spam, they acted like I'd just taken a dump on their rug and then claimed they had a very high win rate... but since they only had Slaughterhouse and not Hand of Mercy, I'm not sure how relevant their win rate really is.

What's with these people? Do they actually believe that spamming those sound effects macros actually helps the team, or are they just exercising the petty form of power Square-Enix gives players by allowing them to play sound effects on others' devices?

[Knot_D]

JP sometimes have someone do callout to do burst countdown or pinch warning in Frontline or RW. I myself doing that as well and I know NA people really hate it because of the sound effects, but yeah JP does that

EDIT: Also macro for direction and hold position.

[Gserpent]

Yeah he was definitely using one of those. I don't see the point, though. "Hit the big button when they're all clumped up" is something that any player with more than like five or six games under their belt understands intuitively and they don't need to be told to do it.

[Knot_D]

Yeah he was definitely using one of those. I don't see the point, though. "Hit the big button when they're all clumped up" is something that any player with more than like five or six games under their belt understands intuitively and they don't need to be told to do it.

It's mostly for coordinating to buffs party then DRK use Salted Earth on packs then DRG use their LBs, something like that

[Edelgarde]

"Oh wow, I do no damage and do nothing in large scale fights for my team by not listening to commands, but at least I play the objective because I am smarter than everyone else." Want to know why commanders lose even though they give commands? They will get Frontline matches, where they have 23 people like you on their team who choose not to care and not listen to commands, while not knowing how to do the bare minimum of not pressing buttons. Or you know, they could just be a bad commander, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and take their side for this one.

I think the data center where commanding is the most effective because everyone actually listens is actually Elemental and Mana data center. People actually listen because they understand how important it is to work as a team and sync their burst together to take points and objectives from other teams. Getting kills is really important, and it's a lot more harder to rack up kills if people are not syncing their burst. They will also help you move around the battlefield safely and avoid getting the entire alliance pincered. Their goal is to just get you guys kills and help you avoid dying, because you need battle high (buff that gives you 10-50% damage and healing bonus), that helps you dominate mid to late game, because you're so strong by then with those buffs.

With the changes to balance of Frontlines where people are just stupidly tanky, you need to co-ordinate those burst to make sure you're racking in a wave of kills instead of relying on luck to get you one measly kill. Now to be fair with you, NA players tend to ignore callouts significantly more than JP players. I believe its just a culture problem, where JP are more obedient and NA players are like "F U, American freedom, we do what we want!" It's the reason why when I play on NA data centers, I don't bother doing callouts for them. No one listens, and because no one listens, if we lose, people just immediately blame us for bad shotcalls even though they have no followed a single instruction! Hahahahahaha! So it's best not to do shotcalls in NA, it's almost pointless. But it's very effective if you do it in JP data centers, because players have a more clearer understanding to the game about battle high, teamwork and co-ordination. And they don't have such a massive ego where they don't mind being told what to do, cause they know they have to work as a team.

But yeah, this is generally just a culture difference. Shotcalls in NA are just hopeless, because a good majority of the time, no one listens.

[Knot_D]

It's the reason why when I play on NA data centers, I don't bother doing callouts for them. No one listens, and because no one listens, if we lose, people just immediately blame us for bad shotcalls even though they have no followed a single instruction! Hahahahahaha! So it's best not to do shotcalls in NA, it's almost pointless.

LMAO basically it happened to me yesterday when I do the callout at Crystal.



Like what even is a good callout? Linking with map??

[Edelgarde]

LMAO basically it happened to me yesterday when I do the callout at Crystal.



Like what even is a good callout? Linking with map??

Linking with maps are not good callouts. They're not even helpful and people on console cannot take the time to look at the coordinates.

Good callouts are successfully guiding the entire alliance in a safe route to avoid them getting pincered or ambushed, while being able to do good timing on full assault burst on enemies, while knowing when to retreat.

edit: Gserpent's case is he ignores any callouts and gets himself killed, losing more points for the team and never ever helping full assault burst, thus doing nothing for his team to secure kills. Commanders who have no one following their order are useless, but commanders are great to have when people choose to listen.

[Knot_D]

Linking with maps are not good callouts. They're not even helpful and people on console cannot take the time to look at the coordinates.

Good callouts are successfully guiding the entire alliance in a safe route to avoid them getting pincered or ambushed, while being able to do good timing on full assault burst on enemies, while knowing when to retreat.

Yeah I know, and you're right. That's why I tried to question these people what even is a good callout for them

[tsuchii]

No. I tried it a few time and no one really listens. It's a waste. 1/3 chance, roll the dice. That's frontline.

[Dionysius]

GC with callouts will easily dominate the game even in 2v1 situation. It's broken strong, not just useful.