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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    I think OP kind of has a point. Unless you know where to go, finding and unlocking Extremes/ Savage can be a bit confusing, especially now we're several expansions in and adding in the proclivity of sprouts to rush through the game to reach the latest content and likely not noticing the locations where they're to be unlocked. Perhaps a little message after completing a trial or raid saying "the extreme version of this fight can be found in ___" would be useful, or giving players a bit of information about accessing harder fights in ARR.

    I've been casual PUG-ing various Savage tiers on and off since HW and never had a problem with being "vetted" though, and I'm far from a decent orange parser - that sounds more like someone trying to join a static they're not ready for. Meet the basic ilvl requirement, know your rotation (and a guide, if it's not blind) and jump in, and more often than not you'll be fine. If not, you'll soon learn.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I think OP kind of has a point. Unless you know where to go, finding and unlocking Extremes/ Savage can be a bit confusing, especially now we're several expansions in and adding in the proclivity of sprouts to rush through the game to reach the latest content and likely not noticing the locations where they're to be unlocked. Perhaps a little message after completing a trial or raid saying "the extreme version of this fight can be found in ___" would be useful, or giving players a bit of information about accessing harder fights in ARR.
    Among the most common advice given to new players is to do blue quests and that should make them unlock them. I agree that in some cases they may be lost amongst all of the blue quests or not certain where to find the minstrel though. A lot of people seem to miss the sidequest trials such as Warring Triad, the Four Lord or the Sorrow of Werlyt, which is something I've run into a lot lately where people think they unlocked everything and didn't know these trials existed. The only idea I can think of is to put all duties in Duty Finder, but replace it with "not unlocked" and show the unlock location in the details.

    I've been casual PUG-ing various Savage tiers on and off since HW and never had a problem with being "vetted" though, and I'm far from a decent orange parser - that sounds more like someone trying to join a static they're not ready for. Meet the basic ilvl requirement, know your rotation (and a guide, if it's not blind) and jump in, and more often than not you'll be fine. If not, you'll soon learn.
    I agree. If you are worried about vetting you can simply avoid the people who vet or find parties with lower standards who aren't trying to speedkill but just kill.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Among the most common advice given to new players is to do blue quests and that should make them unlock them. I agree that in some cases they may be lost amongst all of the blue quests or not certain where to find the minstrel though. A lot of people seem to miss the sidequest trials such as Warring Triad, the Four Lord or the Sorrow of Werlyt, which is something I've run into a lot lately where people think they unlocked everything and didn't know these trials existed. The only idea I can think of is to put all duties in Duty Finder, but replace it with "not unlocked" and show the unlock location in the details.
    Doesn't Duty > Recommendations already cover these quests?
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I think OP kind of has a point. Unless you know where to go, finding and unlocking Extremes/ Savage can be a bit confusing, especially now we're several expansions in and adding in the proclivity of sprouts to rush through the game to reach the latest content and likely not noticing the locations where they're to be unlocked. Perhaps a little message after completing a trial or raid saying "the extreme version of this fight can be found in ___" would be useful, or giving players a bit of information about accessing harder fights in ARR.

    I've been casual PUG-ing various Savage tiers on and off since HW and never had a problem with being "vetted" though, and I'm far from a decent orange parser - that sounds more like someone trying to join a static they're not ready for. Meet the basic ilvl requirement, know your rotation (and a guide, if it's not blind) and jump in, and more often than not you'll be fine. If not, you'll soon learn.
    You just follow the big obvious blue quest markers for content unlock. Dont know how more complex and inviting it can be than that.
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