how rampant is cheating in CC

[Raoabolic]

In my experience people are just bad.
Either my groups just faceroll the other group, or we get facerolled..
I can't tell you how many times my team members try to 1 vs 5 instead of grouping up...
Its so frustrating >_<

*stop playing Dota/dota2 because of this*
*somehow trick myself into going for a rank in CC*
You know, at some point you need to look at yourself in the mirror and just admit that you are the worst enabler for these bad habits. ;A;

[Chie_M]

It's very easy to get a team kill and have it look like it was 'solo'. I've gotten the credit for a full team kill on DRG almost daily, because people huddle up on the crystal and refuse to disengage during combat.

(This is in Casual. I don't have the patience for Comp queue times now that I missed the start-of-season rush.)

[Wolwosh]

*stop playing Dota/dota2 because of this*
*somehow trick myself into going for a rank in CC*
You know, at some point you need to look at yourself in the mirror and just admit that you are the worst enabler for these bad habits. ;A;

No because I just don't heal people who do this, or run after them

[Ransu]

I saw an uptick of them in season 2, but basically saw none in season 3.

That said, when they reset all the ranks in season 3 I was clearing bronze teams by myself pretty easily, so its really not all that surprising if a crystal player on an alt is just wrecking bronze players.

[Themarvin]

Maybe should not stand to close next to opponent SAM's and the likes...

You can do some absolutely marvelous things in PvP.. especially if you have dong it for a while and got experience in playing it... you can on time run into 4-5 weekend pvp'ers on both own and opponent team in a figure of speech.. which just get hammered hard as your team or the other work hard on the objective in both CC and Frontline... i play bard mainly in pvp and die hard at it... often you need to know when to engage... and when to engage running backwards... and when to pull quite a bit back then advance into people that has seen fools gold.

Unlike Savage and Ultimate content, the greatest skill to overcome anything in this game is PvP and the hardest challenge due to you need to react to the current situation and not follow a pre-set script for an instance... and by that NOT dizzing Savage/Ultimate players... because there, especially if you dare to play on min ilevel you REALLY need to know your job well and play the floor is lava game as well.

[AnotherPerson]

I saw an uptick of them in season 2, but basically saw none in season 3.

That said, when they reset all the ranks in season 3 I was clearing bronze teams by myself pretty easily, so its really not all that surprising if a crystal player on an alt is just wrecking bronze players.

Yeah, I don't see many bots anymore. The number of high rank players on alts surprisingly tends to happen a lot these days. You can start to tell when people don't belong in a low tier or are playing on an alt simply due to how they react to certain encounters and fights if you climbed all the way to Crystal tier. I've come across a lot of them in my time on different accounts in different Datacenters. There's a lot more subtle nuances to playing your job well, which is what starts distinguishing higher ranked players from lower rank players even if they have the same stats and skillsets. It's what allows them to make amazing kill streaks or "barely survive". People at higher ranks have really good reaction speed, but even more importantly are those who can anticipate and bait attacks to lead to a more favorable outcome. If you want to do well in PvP, you also want to know each job's strengths and weaknesses to fully take advantage of it. For lower ranks, you should depend on yourself more than your teammates if you don't think they will do a good job though.

A big thing to note is that players from Unranked to Gold are generally easily beatable if you're higher ranked than them (Diamond or higher usually). This is mainly due to a difference in accumulated experience. There's a loss-prevention system in place for people Gold and below in their ranking. People who can't accumulate more wins than losses from Gold onwards will not be able to climb past Gold, which is where the skill issue starts playing a huge factor in separating players. Even if a player has reached gold, they may truly not be at a gold-tier standard and have been carried through the loss-prevention system overtime.

[Edelgarde]

You sound like a bad player who don't know how to deal with players who have a proper understanding to the game and can actually press buttons.