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[Reap00]

Transmog Catalog.

We don't need a catalog regardless of what the sweaty masses think. If SE managed to get that in the game people would cry for more. The current glam system is fine.

[Larirawiel]

We don't need a catalog regardless of what the sweaty masses think. If SE managed to get that in the game people would cry for more. The current glam system is fine.

Sorry, but no.

The transmog catalog is account wide. It is a huge advantage over the glamour system in FF14.


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[KageTokage]

Sorry, but no.

The transmog catalog is account wide. It is a huge advantage over the glamour system in FF14.


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It would probably also reduce server load because the glam dresser is yet another storage, whereas the catalog is basically just a big checklist that memorizes whether or not you've ever owned a given item.

[UkcsAlias]

It would probably also reduce server load because the glam dresser is yet another storage, whereas the catalog is basically just a big checklist that memorizes whether or not you've ever owned a given item.

Now also check how much storage it costs.

A single item has a few ids: an item id, the color. So 2 integers.

With 800 items, thats just 1600 integers. Lets say they sue 64 bits because of native CPU. And we end up with 12800 bytes. Lets round it up heavily and its 20kB per user. But most important: its only required to have that 20k loaded when accessing the dresser. Its not a very heavy load on that.

Disk wise, in a single MB you can then store dresser data of 50 users. Which most likely means that all the dresser data can be stored on a single drive for an entire server. And for logged in users it can probably even be loaded into a single RAM module. Again, space wise there is no issue. There is a lot of upscaling possible here without interupting any players (instead of RAM, a single SSD is fast enough to handle this, it doesnt matter that a player has to wait a second to open the dresser. a second is a fair delay if they could have stored 5000 items in them).

Its realy down to how they coded it, and this seems to be a rather poorly optimized/implemented system. That is causing the biggest limitations.

Sure, a binary list of yes no for 50k items can be more efficient, and still be somewhat equaly scalable. But at the same time, it is limited when glam items cost paints (and paints are an important gil sink!).

[Larirawiel]

It would probably also reduce server load because the glam dresser is yet another storage, whereas the catalog is basically just a big checklist that memorizes whether or not you've ever owned a given item.

I do not believe, that this is really relevant for the server load. Databases are really fast when it comes to query such things. Of course if you do not mess it up. As UkcsAlias mentioned, this are propably a few bytes per item. It they use long integers as ids it is propably 16 bytes per item. It means 12800 bytes or 12,5 kbytes per logged in player.


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[Reap00]

Sorry, but no.

The transmog catalog is account wide. It is a huge advantage over the glamour system in FF14.


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I don't care. We don't need a system from another game when the system in XIV works fine.

[Stormpeaks]

We don't need a catalog regardless of what the sweaty masses think. If SE managed to get that in the game people would cry for more. The current glam system is fine.

No it's not fine, and yes the catalogue is far superior. No one is crying about transmog in wow, because its perfectly fine as it is, while the glam system, well, is not. Which is why people are complaining about it.

[Reap00]

No it's not fine, and yes the catalogue is far superior. No one is crying about transmog in wow, because its perfectly fine as it is, while the glam system, well, is not. Which is why people are complaining about it.

I don't care about your opinion. It doesn't matter. The system in XIV fulfills the requirement. We don't need more dev time wasted on trivial garbage.

[Thaciscokidd]

I don't care about your opinion. It doesn't matter. The system in XIV fulfills the requirement. We don't need more dev time wasted on trivial garbage.

Its not fine though. Adding 400 slots is just kicking the can down the road.

[UkcsAlias]

I don't care about your opinion. It doesn't matter. The system in XIV fulfills the requirement. We don't need more dev time wasted on trivial garbage.

Tbh, i think ffxiv on this has a very big diffirent expectation. Glamming in FF matters a lot more than in wow. In wow you can have generic looking gear everywhere, while if they would from this point on do that in ff, people will complain. The glam freedom in ff is one of its selling points over wow.

So yes, that you dont care about his opinion is simply because his opinion is saying to remove a key selling point (an absolute no-go at this point as that will severely drop income).