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    MSQ Lv. 20-44 don't do the game any favor and need rework

    I know this has been discussed many times, but the MSQ between levels 20-44 are really bad and need rework. (Spoilers ahead)

    ARR MSQ is pretty epic and fun at the beginning (<level 20) and the end (45-50), but everything in between is just really poor quality. The arcs leading to Titan and Garuda are basically a series of non-sensical fetch side-quests that have you run around Eorzea, without almost any cutscenes/voice acting or real direction. They are really frustrating, and two years ago I quit FFXIV after finishing the Titan questline because of how terrible it was (glad I came back, because the story really gets better after lvl 45).

    In the sylph arc, it is acknowledged that Prixio is missing and you need to find him, but instead you do some random fetch quests for a bartender. Totally killed the mood.

    In the Titan arc, it is acknowledged that the primal awoke, but instead you start preparing for a random banquet, and run around to get wine and cheese... Yes, it's explained why you do this, but it's still awful and basically filler. The fight with Titan was completely anti-climactic and a let-down, because you literally just teleport to the final boss after some random side-quests.

    Then the game gets very serious in the Garuda arc after slaying Titan, and instead of trying to save your comrades... you go on another fetch-type questline for 12 levels. I actually liked the quests in Coertas but it really killed the mood of wanting to save your friends who were abducted, tortured, and experimented on... for 12 levels.

    The game gets much better after slaying Garuda, but it requires commitment to get there... Why don't they just rework these early questlines to make them more interesting? Like me, I am sure that other players quit the game just because of how bad these quests are. There are like tens of threads on the Titan arc alone and how bad it is. I saw this is already "reworked" but it's still too random and immersion-breaking.
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    Those quests are fine as is. Each has a narrative reason for being there. The MSQ has no filler
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    These quests have mechanical and meta reasons to be there, mostly to introduce core mechanics or familiarize you with new maps, but often very little integration to lore and story-telling. For example, Minfillia sends you to speak with the goblin crafter while you are in the middle of an investigation - useful but immersion-breaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Succor View Post
    These quests have mechanical and meta reasons to be there, mostly to introduce core mechanics or familiarize you with new maps, but often very little integration to lore and story-telling. For example, Minfillia sends you to speak with the goblin crafter while you are in the middle of an investigation - useful but immersion-breaking.
    Except that it's not immersion breaking. It's an errand, you are an errand boy
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Except that it's not immersion breaking. It's an errand, you are an errand boy
    Haha that's actually a great way of looking at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Succor View Post
    Haha that's actually a great way of looking at it.
    It's unironically the correct way to look at it. For the majority of ARR, you're an errand boy, sellsword etc.
    You're initially not in it for the camaraderie or world-saving, you're in it to Be An Adventurer, and Being An Adventurer includes doing little man errands. You're Spiderman, the Avengers don't know you yet.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is