DRG getting rework

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Not a DRG main. But whenever I pick it up for something casual like daily roulettes, alliance raid, or normal raids, I know I’m going to enjoy it for following reasons:
• Basic rotation are flashy enough with a neat DoT timer attached. Feels great to refresh it just as it falls off.
• Delaying Life of the Dragon successfully feels very satisfying & rewarding.
• Dragon Sight! Yeah it’s just a buff, but it’s not your generic ‘press to AoE buff party’ or self buff like Lance Charge.
• Line-shaped AoEs. Finally, something that’s just not another circle!

[magitekLuna]

Really hope they will not "rework" the jobs that works well now. Just fix the ones people asking to be .

[Brightamethyst]

I wonder why they think DRG needs a major rework in the first place? Are they worried about button bloat coming to a head in 7.0?

I hope they remove dragonsite. I have never liked that skill. It is single handily the only reason I do not play the job.

They could fix it instantly by giving it the Dance Partner treatment and letting you just pick a DS target ahead of time.

[Jeeqbit]

If there is no room to expand the rotation, maybe we have just hit a point where we can't expand rotations without turning the lower level rotations into hardly anything or using the trait upgrade system.

Maybe that means we should reconsider expanding the level cap, or for the next expansion, create a separate world like Eureka where you start from level 1 and in this world and any of its dungeons and raids, you have a completely new rotation.

[Deceptus]

Yes, i'm also worried for the pld rework after what they did to summoner
drg is what i would say a perfect job atm, i do understand that means it's impossible to add onto it now, but if they just prune stuff for the sake of pruning that is pointless and ruins jobs.
i am very concerned due to recent changes.

It's not perfect, there are some things they could definitely tighten up.

Like a lot of other skills, if something is the pre-req for another skill that other skill could just be the original button changed.

They already do this with certain other actions (Geirskogul changing into Nastrond) but not others.

• Wheeling Thrust: Can only be executed while under the effect of Wheel in Motion, granted by Chaotic Spring.
  Update: Make Chaotic Spring icon change to Wheeling Thrust upon execution
  
• Fang and Claw: Can only be executed while under the effect of Fang and Claw Bared, granted by Heavens' Thrust.
  Update: Make Heaven's Thrust icon change to Fang and Claw upon execution
  
• Mirage Dive: Can only be executed when Dive Ready. What causes Dive Ready? Only a single skill: Jump/High Jump
  Update: Jump/High Jump changes to Mirage dive after execution.

Three buttons that don't need to exist and do nothing but cause button bloat.

And this is the reason why job design has been such a trainwreck since 2 expansions, because everything needs to be designed to "appeal to a wider audience".
It isn't enough that DrG mains enjoy the job a lot, it needs the be enjoyed by ALL THE PEOPLE.

You can't expand a job playerbase without enticing non DRG players. If you don't, existing players eventually leave and no one replaces them.

The same goes for any other job.

The problem is, the FFXIV devs have forgotten one of their basic tenets:

If it's not fun, what's the point?



A lot of jobs simply aren't fun anymore.

[Deveryn]

Yes, i'm also worried for the pld rework after what they did to summoner
drg is what i would say a perfect job atm, i do understand that means it's impossible to add onto it now, but if they just prune stuff for the sake of pruning that is pointless and ruins jobs.
i am very concerned due to recent changes.

It would be nice for people to stop using summoner as a comparison point. No other class ever attempted to function the same way it did, so you're not going to see such a drastic change.

[Fayt1203]

Did Yoshi not say in the live letter that Ast and Drg rework would be similar how they did the rework on the monk. they did talk about a little when they announce the delay until 7.0

[Jeeqbit]

Did Yoshi not say in the live letter that Ast and Drg rework would be similar how they did the rework on the monk. they did talk about a little when they announce the delay until 7.0

If it is like MNK then it makes it even more likely DRG will be like RPR.

[Recon1o6]

While I got off the dragoon train back in shb (because it got nothing. Its literally just 30-50 again but with some of the levels swapped around and in ew it got wyrmwind. thats it) I am still disappointed to see my former secondary job be put on notice for execution

I want to look forward to the rework I truly do. But devs are insistent on having braindead accessible, puddle deep homogenous crap instead of jobs and as of this writing show no signs of returning to the style of hw/sb job design.
The devs have a track record of making jobs worse every rework and ain't about to change that.

I sincerely hope they proved me wrong.

[Deveryn]

I get that people miss how some of these jobs used to function, but the fact is a lot of people don't and it was never going to get people to come play this game the way they do now. We wouldn't be having any conversations about servers being added, but more doom and gloom about servers being removed. Just because it felt smarter doesn't mean it was actually good.