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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy View Post
    Give it some time, it'll work out!
    Hasn't even been a month. FC plots go up for bidding tomorrow so it'll be 30 days. Expectations that a new DC will function like an old established one in such a short time are unrealistic especially given the DC started with 4 instead of 8 servers in my opinion. I'm personally very happy to be on Hali atm and I can spend time there or visit with friends elsewhere. I wish Materia (Sophia) had that option.

    Populations need to be redistributed and that is where SE is heading with it's plans.

    I can see where selling might be an issue but I can also see the price gouging and attempts to get rich quick on a new DC. That's not going to happen because many of us know better and will travel for a price that is reasonable.
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    Laernu Tairos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsavooz View Post
    On another note, I hate Seraph. Bought a small house, decked it out even have a garden, Grow shit no one buys, reatiner shit, no one buys... instead, everyone is running to other DC's for crafting supplies etc. When my pardon comes through after 90 long, long, long days, house be damned. Back to Crystal. No more hour long queues. And to all those who say, just play on other DC's, that wasn't the idea for me to move here. Worst mistake ever playing this game. Like I said before, there's an FC here called 90 Days.
    If enough people do that then HOPEFULLY, SE simply merges Dyna related servers into Crystal / Primal / Aether like they've done similar before.

    It's getting a bit ridiculous now and instead of praying that 7.0 will fix it I honestly don't see it at this point. I was hopeful after week 2/3 but its really only been resulting in the servers being even "more" dead.
    Not even 200 players "total" online at times in the "entire" freaking server.

    Especially now that they announced tons of new wards in OG servers, which was a piss poor time for them to do that.
    Pretty much guaranteed Dynamis stays dead with that ward expansion even with 7.0
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealTai View Post
    If enough people do that then HOPEFULLY, SE simply merges Dyna related servers into Crystal / Primal / Aether like they've done similar before.
    The entire reason for the new data center is to reduce player log in congestion on each logical data center. Merging the Dynamis worlds into the existing worlds would end up increasing it and put it right back to what happened at Endwalker release, with multi-hour queue times and SE having to temporarily discontinue game sales/account creation in an attempt to reduce the queue times.

    Keep in mind that the player search results do not include players who are in instanced duties or who are on other worlds/data centers. Dynamis players deciding they want to go back to Aether or Crystal or Primal to play only make the perception of a dead data center worse.

    If they want a healthy data center, they need to put in the effort to make it one by playing on it, and asking their friends to come play with them on Dynamis occasionally instead of it only being the other way around.

    In the meantime, I've only been seeing a negligible difference in queue times between what I get on Crystal with my Crystal characters and what I get on Dynamis with my Dynamis characters. It certainly hasn't been enough to deter me from continuing to queue on Dynamis. How radical a difference it is for players who had come from Primal and Aether, I can't say.
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    Hadrefort Sarmantoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The entire reason for the new data center is to reduce player log in congestion on each logical data center. Merging the Dynamis worlds into the existing worlds would end up increasing it and put it right back to what happened at Endwalker release, with multi-hour queue times and SE having to temporarily discontinue game sales/account creation in an attempt to reduce the queue times.

    Keep in mind that the player search results do not include players who are in instanced duties or who are on other worlds/data centers. Dynamis players deciding they want to go back to Aether or Crystal or Primal to play only make the perception of a dead data center worse.

    If they want a healthy data center, they need to put in the effort to make it one by playing on it, and asking their friends to come play with them on Dynamis occasionally instead of it only being the other way around.

    In the meantime, I've only been seeing a negligible difference in queue times between what I get on Crystal with my Crystal characters and what I get on Dynamis with my Dynamis characters. It certainly hasn't been enough to deter me from continuing to queue on Dynamis. How radical a difference it is for players who had come from Primal and Aether, I can't say.
    Agreed.

    There's a reason why SE reorganize the original 3 JP data centers into 4, which is to improve queue times, I don't ever foresee them merging new worlds to existing data centers unless the population is in serious decline which is not the case here.

    That being said, I'm not too sure what else SE can do to incentivize more players from existing servers to move to new ones. In the past few months, we have seen that the new OCE, EU and NA worlds have severely reduced player population and they are not likely to increase much further as most players who wanted to switch servers for a better chance at housing would have done so by now. Even when 7.0 is released in the future, I seriously doubt that returning players would want to switch to the new worlds as these are likely to be casual players who want to mainly experience the new story content and would rather remain in their existing servers with their friends/FC mates.

    Which is another reason I believe SE would be over-extending themselves if they still intend to go ahead with 4 new NA worlds and a brand new EU data center in 2023, those worlds will practically be worse off than even Materia in its current state.
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy View Post
    That's strange, I have had no trouble selling seeds, Onions (in fact they sell for 150k, the heck? you can DC travel and get them for 90k!), housing items, crystals, food, yeah basically everything that people want, maybe you're pushing junk nobody wants or selling too high.

    Relax, once they add the four new worlds, it's going to be crazy, 1800 new plots too, and four new worlds worth of plots, and the Duty Finder will be much more alive, people will stay and use it more instead of Travel.

    Give it some time, it'll work out!
    I want to say we'll have to wait till 7.0 before we start to see permanent settlement and development in Dynamis. Problem is just that were under content drought so not a lot of buzz or activity is going on for the new servers. But expansion releases bring in so many new players that we'll hopefully start to see these new servers finally bringing bank.
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    Myrany Wilzuun
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    Zalera
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    Miner Lv 87
    The characters I moved from Materia to Dynamis are there for good. I have no problem getting what I need to get done finished. I am enjoying the server. I can wait for things to pick up. Meanwhile I have a bunch to do with road to 80 and other stuff on my list.
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    I think players on Dynamis really need to stop hopping to other data centers to run their roulettes/raids etc.

    If everyone does that, the queue times get exponentially worse for those who remain on Dynamis, which in turns force them to do the same thing as well. This perpetuates a vicious feedback loop where eventually Dynamis is just a dead DC. As bad as Materia is, there's at least the consolation that the players have to build up a community and run events on the DC itself instead of taking the easy way out and abandoning the DC.
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    And yet I manage to get insta-queues pretty regularly for roulettes (even on DPS) and have no issue completing content outside of current tier savage (which is expected considering statics were already established on other data centers).

    Expecting the DC to be as popped as Aether or Crystal in the first month, however, is illogical. Those DCs also have taken years to get to the size they are at now. Lowering expectations might help a bit. Also, finding something to do while you are waiting for a queue helps (I have 6.3 prep I've been doing on the side).

    The doomposting here is wild. I understand the frustration of not always having instant-gratification but give it a year before screaming that it's a dead DC.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 12-01-2022 at 08:24 PM.

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    People believing a new DC will make the game feel like its getting released back in 2.0 and everyone who have been playing for a decade (veterans) wants to start from 0 again.

    That's never going to happen, the main story of the game ended and there is nothing new to see or expect UNLESS you're a genuine new player, even so if that's the case those always look up for the most popular servers and not the new ones.
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    People believing a new DC will make the game feel like its getting released back in 2.0 and everyone who have been playing for a decade (veterans) wants to start from 0 again.

    That's never going to happen, the main story of the game ended and there is nothing new to see or expect UNLESS you're a genuine new player, even so if that's the case those always look up for the most popular servers and not the new ones.
    I disagree and agree with this view. Yeah, the main story as we know it is over (that doesn't mean MSQ is done, we're literally getting new plot to post-EW in a month and a whole new storyline in 7.0) but I doubt many people are trying to dip to Dynamis to redo the entire MSQ (I'm sure some are because the alt game is real with a lot of people but I don't believe it's a main motivator, housing was overwhelmingly the main one). My partner has been playing since Heavensward launched and wanted to come to Dynamis with me to just help a server grow from Day 1 which is an experience he missed out on in ARR. I simply wanted a fresh start, to help Dynamis grow more than I could on Materia (mainly due to timezones) and to actually have a chance of making myself a permanent home since housing is a nightmare anywhere else on NA.

    Deterring people from joining just because it's new is something I don't really understand, when the point is to get new people in to help grow the DC. Instead of telling people to just pack into existing DCs and make their own issues worse, send them to Dynamis and help expand the population here. Maybe I'm just desensitized to the whole thing because of being on Materia (no offense to Materia) but Dynamis really is not that bad for being a month out. Again, you can't compare a ONE MONTH old DC to one that's been established for YEARS. Give people a real chance to come in and help jumpstart things instead of taking the stance of: "Well I can't get every single queue in under 30s, Dynamis is dead and not worth the time." Have some patience, please. It's really not that hard.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 12-01-2022 at 09:49 PM.

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