Why Is Dynamis Dead

[NekoMataMata]

People keep trying to rush it, instead of simply observing. Not that I haven't had my own troubles with the MB. I have crashed a whole retainer's worth of in demand items to around a third of the price of what they're selling for Crystal, and people are still buying over there. It's probably a bit of an extreme, but the price gougers upset me.

Anyways, content drought and add in that this is a busy time of year for people. Family stuff, finals are around the corner... I'm not playing that much myself right now, and I wouldn't expect it from anyone else really.

[UnrealTai]

On another note, I hate Seraph. Bought a small house, decked it out even have a garden, Grow shit no one buys, reatiner shit, no one buys... instead, everyone is running to other DC's for crafting supplies etc. When my pardon comes through after 90 long, long, long days, house be damned. Back to Crystal. No more hour long queues. And to all those who say, just play on other DC's, that wasn't the idea for me to move here. Worst mistake ever playing this game. Like I said before, there's an FC here called 90 Days.

If enough people do that then HOPEFULLY, SE simply merges Dyna related servers into Crystal / Primal / Aether like they've done similar before.

It's getting a bit ridiculous now and instead of praying that 7.0 will fix it I honestly don't see it at this point. I was hopeful after week 2/3 but its really only been resulting in the servers being even "more" dead.
Not even 200 players "total" online at times in the "entire" freaking server.

Especially now that they announced tons of new wards in OG servers, which was a piss poor time for them to do that.
Pretty much guaranteed Dynamis stays dead with that ward expansion even with 7.0

[caffe_macchiato]

7.0 is pretty optimistic for them to fix this game’s issues. The entire production cycle relies on boom and bust—players join during a new patch and then leave promptly after. The only incentive for players to stay is the timegated gear treadmill so that you can play the ultimate raid. But that assumes players don’t get burnt out of the highly repetitive artificial difficulty long before then. And, from the numbers, we know that a very small percentage of players in NA actually attempt ultimates.

So what’s the point of the game? To sell the story, characters, and cash shop items. FFXIV was never meant to be a long-term investment for anyone to partake in. ARR’s success was purely accidental. Square Enix never intended to compete with online gaming stalwarts like WoW, League, Valorant, Fortnite, etc. And many of you appreciate that, because you play those games too.

Dynamis being empty is good news for them because they can forget about any infrastructure changes for the next 10 years. It’s all smooth sailing for that department until the game reaches maintenance mode. They’ll never change anything serious about the game—the engine is still handicapped, class design is just button mashing, raids are Simon says.

If we want something different, we’re gonna get it in FFXVII, not 7.0.

[Jojoya]

If enough people do that then HOPEFULLY, SE simply merges Dyna related servers into Crystal / Primal / Aether like they've done similar before.

The entire reason for the new data center is to reduce player log in congestion on each logical data center. Merging the Dynamis worlds into the existing worlds would end up increasing it and put it right back to what happened at Endwalker release, with multi-hour queue times and SE having to temporarily discontinue game sales/account creation in an attempt to reduce the queue times.

Keep in mind that the player search results do not include players who are in instanced duties or who are on other worlds/data centers. Dynamis players deciding they want to go back to Aether or Crystal or Primal to play only make the perception of a dead data center worse.

If they want a healthy data center, they need to put in the effort to make it one by playing on it, and asking their friends to come play with them on Dynamis occasionally instead of it only being the other way around.

In the meantime, I've only been seeing a negligible difference in queue times between what I get on Crystal with my Crystal characters and what I get on Dynamis with my Dynamis characters. It certainly hasn't been enough to deter me from continuing to queue on Dynamis. How radical a difference it is for players who had come from Primal and Aether, I can't say.

[DeNada]

The entire reason for the new data center is to reduce player log in congestion on each logical data center. Merging the Dynamis worlds into the existing worlds would end up increasing it and put it right back to what happened at Endwalker release, with multi-hour queue times and SE having to temporarily discontinue game sales/account creation in an attempt to reduce the queue times.

Keep in mind that the player search results do not include players who are in instanced duties or who are on other worlds/data centers. Dynamis players deciding they want to go back to Aether or Crystal or Primal to play only make the perception of a dead data center worse.

If they want a healthy data center, they need to put in the effort to make it one by playing on it, and asking their friends to come play with them on Dynamis occasionally instead of it only being the other way around.

In the meantime, I've only been seeing a negligible difference in queue times between what I get on Crystal with my Crystal characters and what I get on Dynamis with my Dynamis characters. It certainly hasn't been enough to deter me from continuing to queue on Dynamis. How radical a difference it is for players who had come from Primal and Aether, I can't say.

Agreed.

There's a reason why SE reorganize the original 3 JP data centers into 4, which is to improve queue times, I don't ever foresee them merging new worlds to existing data centers unless the population is in serious decline which is not the case here.

That being said, I'm not too sure what else SE can do to incentivize more players from existing servers to move to new ones. In the past few months, we have seen that the new OCE, EU and NA worlds have severely reduced player population and they are not likely to increase much further as most players who wanted to switch servers for a better chance at housing would have done so by now. Even when 7.0 is released in the future, I seriously doubt that returning players would want to switch to the new worlds as these are likely to be casual players who want to mainly experience the new story content and would rather remain in their existing servers with their friends/FC mates.

Which is another reason I believe SE would be over-extending themselves if they still intend to go ahead with 4 new NA worlds and a brand new EU data center in 2023, those worlds will practically be worse off than even Materia in its current state.

[Brandt_Nunh]

Right, so.

I'm on Crystal on my main. Have the same character I'm playing through on Marilith to relive the story, finally get my Ishgardian elezen his Ishgardian home, and hang out with my partner. I have a whole 2 complaints.

1) Having to go to Crystal for Frontline--other queues have been just fine, even as DPS.
2) The BOTS, my god. I haven't seen it this bad since the aether/crystal split.

And that's the other thing--people in this game seem to have some legendary short term memory. Once upon a time, Mateus was a dead quiet server. Now it's Balmung's little brother.

It just needs time. This is the slowest possible time of year with the content drought/holidays looming. I've been playing since 2015 and stuff ebbs and flows. I'm actually enjoying the lack of nightclub ads for now....they're coming.

Edit: The bots are INCREDIBLY bad. It bears repeating.

[TaleraRistain]

There are a LOT of new players on Marilith. And often I'm finding it's not fresh new players, but veterans working up an alt to play through things again and be a newbie for a while. I just hit HW and run roulettes fairly regularly. Queue times may not be as fast as my home server Jenova but Mari right now feels like Jenova did when I first started playing. Jenova used to be a very small server. Now it's grown a lot. I feel that Mari will do the same.

I will agree with many others. There's a lot of bots. I can mostly just ignore them, though.

[R041]

Dead? No way! We have hundreds of bots - I even have to queue to get into my server that I never see players in! If I want some companions then I just do a quick search for 1-59 BRD and BLM, to figure out where all the action is happening.

[Jojoya]

Dead? No way! We have hundreds of bots - I even have to queue to get into my server that I never see players in! If I want some companions then I just do a quick search for 1-59 BRD and BLM, to figure out where all the action is happening.

I hope you're being sarcastic.

I just logged onto another of my Dynamis alts. No queue to log in (actually a bit surprised for a Sat afterrnoon/evening). I'm in Old Sharlayan and there are other players here at the market board, vendors, turning in leves, running around doing queuest, etc.

When there is a queue, it's 30 seconds at most same as most other NA worlds.

Is it as many as there would be on a Balmung? Of course not but saying you never see real players is a gross exaggeration unless you're spending all your time in a housing ward where most of the houses are empty.

Sure the bots are a problem. The quantity being loaded on to the Dynamis worlds is probably the same amount being loaded onto the other non-congested NA worlds. Because our populations are less, the ratio to players is higher.

But by no means are there only bots on the Dybamis worlds. Try looking around for people who are playing the game instead of tunnel-visioning the bots.

[Brandt_Nunh]

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He's one of those people if you say anything nice about the game at all he'll call you a simp and have a full on meltdown.

The bots are a HUGE issue. I agreed with him on this in his own thread, I believe. But aside from frontline roulettes, I haven't had issues queueing for roulettes OR getting into the server. There are plenty of bots on my main server too--saw a boatload of them today on Mateus.