Why Is Dynamis Dead

[Shandrith]

I think the timing and reasons that people haven't been on much have been sufficiently covered, but I wanted to point out, once play does pick up with 6.3 and into 7.0, people will also stop going to other DCs as much, because the transfer time will jump drastically. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I could swear that I read somewhere that you are put at the back of the queue when trying to transfer, meaning you have to wait until no players from that DC are trying to log in before you get to transfer your character from Dynamis to another DC. When the new patches and especially the new expansion are out, that's going to be a loooong wait, so people are going to stay and que on Dynamis. Add to that the fact that all of the new players and alt accounts will finally be at decent points in the MSQ, and things should be popping pretty quick

[UnrealTai]

I think the timing and reasons that people haven't been on much have been sufficiently covered, but I wanted to point out, once play does pick up with 6.3 and into 7.0, people will also stop going to other DCs as much, because the transfer time will jump drastically. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I could swear that I read somewhere that you are put at the back of the queue when trying to transfer, meaning you have to wait until no players from that DC are trying to log in before you get to transfer your character from Dynamis to another DC. When the new patches and especially the new expansion are out, that's going to be a loooong wait, so people are going to stay and que on Dynamis. Add to that the fact that all of the new players and alt accounts will finally be at decent points in the MSQ, and things should be popping pretty quick

That pretty much nails it

DC travel is only an easy 30 seconds or so "now".
But the day Dynamis opened it took 10 freaking minutes to go from Maduin to Goblin.
I expect that to return with new patches, and god help us when 7.0 drops. DC travel won't be worth the hour wait, and the worst part is you can't even cancel & back out of it once you start it.

So we'll have to have a Q by then.



If you /sea all on Maduin, the list doesn't even reach 200 3 weeks after opening still yet.
154 total players online in Maduin. I don't think anyone expected it to be THAT low. Yes that's right, 1....5.....4.... total online. Half are a mix of afk'ers & probably rmt. It's pretty bad here.

We'll see what happens with 7.0, if it doesn't get much better than that I can see SE pushing Dynamis servers into Crystal/Aether instead of opening 4 more.

[LianaThorne]

That pretty much nails it

DC travel is only an easy 30 seconds or so "now".
But the day Dynamis opened it took 10 freaking minutes to go from Maduin to Goblin.
I expect that to return with new patches, and god help us when 7.0 drops. DC travel won't be worth the hour wait, and the worst part is you can't even cancel & back out of it once you start it.

So we'll have to have a Q by then.



If you /sea all on Maduin, the list doesn't even reach 200 3 weeks after opening still yet.
154 total players online in Maduin. I don't think anyone expected it to be THAT low. Yes that's right, 1....5.....4.... total online. Half are a mix of afk'ers & probably rmt. It's pretty bad here.

We'll see what happens with 7.0, if it doesn't get much better than that I can see SE pushing Dynamis servers into Crystal/Aether instead of opening 4 more.

If you're judging it based on today, it's literally 8 AM on a major holiday for the US and there's always less pop in the mornings regardless of what server youre on. You're better off checking tomorrow during the actual peak time because Marilith hits between 700-1k and Seraph's Limsa speaks for itself because that's alive no matter what time of day it is.

Please stop doomposting that because you ended up on one of the smaller pop servers (which we all knew Maduin and Mari were going to be smaller compared to Seraph and Hali if you were being active in the community leading up to launch & after) that the place is on the verge to be merged into another DC. It's not, I'm literally helping new players get through MSQ trials and dungeons on a daily basis, NEW PLAYERS mind you. I or others in the party actually ask if it's their first time ever doing this.

Also, just for kicks, here are the current pops everywhere at 9:18 AM EST
Mari: 300ish
Seraph: 600ish
Hali: 400ish
Maduin: 300ish

[MisterNublet]

Wait... people actually thought Dynamis was going to have an active population?

The only people who moved there are hoping to win a housing plot, or for the first time lv30 bonus. After that, they'll proceed to do what everyone else is doing, travel to Aether to do literally any content.

Dynamis could have work, if they have been physically located on the east coast.

[Chiharu_Sakurai]

Not sure how you get the idea that Dynamis is failed and dead.... it isn't, this is coming from someone who has been playing and queueing on Dynamis exclusively since it came out.

But a few things that you may not have thought of. We JUST got done with round 2 of housing lottery, and Seraph is pretty full on the housing market so right now everyones crafting, selling housing items, or decorating. A few are making millions (I've made a fair amount just reselling rugs LOL). Anyone who doesnt do housing at all will fail to understand just how much time that will eat up. I've spent 3-4 days before just decorating a small FC room, NM a cottage or medium house. I've spent HOURS in my basement section getting it set up and I still have items to craft, flowers to grow, and never mind the upstairs which I havnt touched.

Then theres the alts. Most of our FC transferred over here, but most are just alts looking for the 1M bonus on hitting level 30 and leaving. Trust me, the population has died down, but its not dead. I can still queue for CT, and ARR dungeons and still not be able to finish my CS before it pops. If you're having a problem getting queues for level 90 content... well yeah. While alot of people did transfer it wasnt like half of aether/crystal/primal jumped ship. This is also a good time to make alts and unless you get a story skip, most of those alts are starting over at level 1 of the MSQ. I've met alot of new players.

Is PF a bit dead? Yeah but then thats because everyone is going over to Aether for that. Despite that I've still been in an EX1 farm, EX2 and 4 Prog, along with a Titania farm party.... and that last one was before noon. I've been too busy with leveling an alt, doing tribal quests and housing to bother with PF ATM.

Its also mid-patch, so bit of a content drought, AND the holidays. Time is finate. There are other games out there and people will gravitate towards that. WoW is coming out with a new expansion and I have a friend prepping for that, Terraria came out with its 1.4.4 update recently, plus there are a bunch of other games that have come out, One of which is a SE title, FFXVI is on the horizon.

Point is, its not been a month since the new servers came online, It wasnt released during a new expansion (thank god for that) and when 7.0 comes out, mark my words, Aether will be locked out of anyone wanted to create a character, plus see the return of 10K|2 1/2hr queues, along with Crystal and probably Primal. The only options for new players will Dynamis. Will it ever rival Aether? probably not but I dont care. I knew moving over was gonna have some growing pains but I dont want to have to reprog The Login Queue (Savage) which is one of the reasons I transferred.

[MonsutaMan]

[DixieBellOCE]

Materia was the same on Launch.

The benefit Dynamis has over Materia is that you can just DC travel and play the game as normal where as Materia players have to deal with having a small population.

I DC travel over to Aether to raid/PVP during the day, and get almost instant pops on most content, then return home and hang out with my FC and do old extremes and stuff with them.

[Jojoya]

There is a huge crossover in the game's populations. The term 'WOW refugee' is literally a term thrown about in game.

Half the last FC I was in game from WOW during a content drought. They were on 6-8 hours a day on FF14 for the 2 months I was in that FC. None of them have been online since the WOW pre-patch.

No, it's not huge.

My Marilith FC is composed of players who originally met playing WoW unless they were already real life relatives. How many of them stopped playing FFXIV to return to WoW for the pre-patch?

One, who's already back to playing FFXIV because nothing in the pre-patch made him excited for Dragonflight. The rest are done with WoW. They're far happier here than they'd been with WoW in years.

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.

There is some crossover but it's not huge like you claim. They're two different MMOs that appeal to different types of players.

If you think WoW is to blame, then explain why we had the exact same complaints at the same point in 6.1's patch cycle where there was nothing going on in WoW to cause it.

LOL no its not. Hailcarnassus is the least populated one on the DC. Most times queues are pretty atrocious there for any early content and pvp. WHile I don't mind DC traveling, it does make the new DC feel empty as hell.

Some players were trying to make Hali the raider/PvP server but I don't think that stuck. It's really just Seraph that has an identity. The rest are just normal worlds.

Hali isn't the least populated, either. That honor goes to Maduin, though not by much. Hali, Maduin and Marilith are all fairly close in population - and dwarfed by Seraph.

Queues also aren't world specific. They draw from the entire data center. I see a lot more Seraph players in my roulettes than players from any other world, which is what I would expect to see.

[Zsolen]

No, it's not huge.

My Marilith FC is composed of players who originally met playing WoW unless they were already real life relatives. How many of them stopped playing FFXIV to return to WoW for the pre-patch?

One, who's already back to playing FFXIV because nothing in the pre-patch made him excited for Dragonflight. The rest are done with WoW. They're far happier here than they'd been with WoW in years.

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.

There is some crossover but it's not huge like you claim. They're two different MMOs that appeal to different types of players.

If you think WoW is to blame, then explain why we had the exact same complaints at the same point in 6.1's patch cycle where there was nothing going on in WoW to cause it.


Some players were trying to make Hali the raider/PvP server but I don't think that stuck. It's really just Seraph that has an identity. The rest are just normal worlds.

Hali isn't the least populated, either. That honor goes to Maduin, though not by much. Hali, Maduin and Marilith are all fairly close in population - and dwarfed by Seraph.

Queues also aren't world specific. They draw from the entire data center. I see a lot more Seraph players in my roulettes than players from any other world, which is what I would expect to see.

Seraph has a lot of ranked pvpers. Mostly alts.

[LittleImp]

No, it's not huge.

My Marilith FC is composed of players who originally met playing WoW unless they were already real life relatives. How many of them stopped playing FFXIV to return to WoW for the pre-patch?

One, who's already back to playing FFXIV because nothing in the pre-patch made him excited for Dragonflight. The rest are done with WoW. They're far happier here than they'd been with WoW in years.

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.

There is some crossover but it's not huge like you claim. They're two different MMOs that appeal to different types of players.

If you think WoW is to blame, then explain why we had the exact same complaints at the same point in 6.1's patch cycle where there was nothing going on in WoW to cause it.

Weird, nearly my entire community is currently playing the WoW prepatch, and a bunch of FFXIV content-creators are very publicly burning out from the game and choosing to try WoW. The Endwalker endgame is honestly one of the most widely and openly derided endgame experiences I have seen since I started playing back in HW, and my friends have been burning out of the game at an unprecedented rate.

It's actually rarer to meet someone on FFXIV who hasn't played WoW at some point; FFXIV is a WoW clone, so it's really not a stretch to imagine they have a lot of players in common.