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    The Solution probably is having all Four Datacenters feeling and operating as if it was " One Datacenter "

    Duty- and Partyfinder are no longer separated by Four Datacenters and the queue times are instant. This is however !! really unrealistic !! due to current Soft/Hardware limitations.

    We discussed why Dynamis is desolate and we know why players aren't flocking to it. Aether Crystal and Primal are competing in what Dynamis has to offer due to Datacenter traveling, their existing communities and playerbases. This makes enticing players to migrate difficult. The only thing Dynamis has way more of? is free-real-estate. That's it. No amount of Experience boost is going to provide any solution to this. Forcing players to migrate is a big no, and enticing only goes so far.

    Twiddling your thumbs and hoping Square does something does nothing. Last thing players want to hear is that they should come to terms with the choices they made... but its one they should accept. It was their choice to transfer to Dynamis, so they should make the best out of the choice they made.
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    new servers and DC is always going to be slow, once next expansion launches next year, it gonna be busy. Based off playing on new EU worlds in both SB and in EW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    The Solution probably is having all Four Datacenters feeling and operating as if it was " One Datacenter "
    The problem is that a lot of people are currently satisfied with things as-is:
    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    new servers and DC is always going to be slow, once next expansion launches next year, it gonna be busy. Based off playing on new EU worlds in both SB and in EW.
    So how do you change the infrastructure for this game while keeping those people happy? They like the system as-is. Maybe they like being in a dead DC. This is likely why Square Enix won't do any upgrades, because people just like everything they're currently doing. The fanbase of this game is very easy to please, Square can throw anything at them and they'll like it no matter what it is. It's hard to incentivize drastic and costly changes when everyone basically likes everything no matter what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    The problem is that a lot of people are currently satisfied with things as-is:


    So how do you change the infrastructure for this game while keeping those people happy? They like the system as-is. Maybe they like being in a dead DC. This is likely why Square Enix won't do any upgrades, because people just like everything they're currently doing. The fanbase of this game is very easy to please, Square can throw anything at them and they'll like it no matter what it is. It's hard to incentivize drastic and costly changes when everyone basically likes everything no matter what it is.
    That's a really good question.

    I can't speak for NA or OCE as I'm in the EU but for ours, it was unfortunate as we needed new servers badly after the EW launch due to covid and chip shortages it was delayed until last summer. I actually anticipated more people to transfer over given the housing issues on large servers but alas, it's pretty dead on that front. Although, we haven't got our new DC yet and these servers were added to the Light and Chaos DC respectively so DF/PF matchup hasn't been affected at all. I feel for anyone playing on a brand new DC where this would be an issue.

    While I fully support adding more servers and DC, as the game continues to grow it is just unfortunate with the timing for some regions. It will (hopefully) be much better later this year and next when 7.0 launches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    That's a really good question.

    I can't speak for NA or OCE as I'm in the EU but for ours, it was unfortunate as we needed new servers badly after the EW launch due to covid and chip shortages it was delayed until last summer. I actually anticipated more people to transfer over given the housing issues on large servers but alas, it's pretty dead on that front. Although, we haven't got our new DC yet and these servers were added to the Light and Chaos DC respectively so DF/PF matchup hasn't been affected at all. I feel for anyone playing on a brand new DC where this would be an issue.

    While I fully support adding more servers and DC, as the game continues to grow it is just unfortunate with the timing for some regions. It will (hopefully) be much better later this year and next when 7.0 launches.
    Sagittarius and Raiden both are barely surviving with an absolute dead marketboard and economy, let alone fc wise, there really isnt much, the population is extremely tiny.

    If anything it gives a good idea of what the new EU DC will be like, not only 2 worlds or 4 worlds but 8 entire new worlds, with 2 new servers that they couldnt even fill, I'm sure 8 will go better right ? People might go over for housing, and then it'll be the new Materia, except that it'll have DC travel, the entire DC will be dead and everybody will DC travel to chaos or light to do content or hang out with friends, the fact they are going ahead with spreading an already medium sized community over an entirely new DC is ridiculous, and sure it might peak a little bit at release of 7.0, and then what when it dies down ? People will be stuck there on a dead datacenter and will be forced to pay to move.

    Also it really is time to stop talking about this game "growing", it isnt, if anything its stable or trending down slightly thanks to there being barely any content, I could pull up charts number but people will yell that it isnt accurate (yet it is).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Sagittarius and Raiden both are barely surviving with an absolute dead marketboard and economy, let alone fc wise, there really isnt much, the population is extremely tiny.

    If anything it gives a good idea of what the new EU DC will be like, not only 2 worlds or 4 worlds but 8 entire new worlds, with 2 new servers that they couldnt even fill, I'm sure 8 will go better right ? People might go over for housing, and then it'll be the new Materia, except that it'll have DC travel, the entire DC will be dead and everybody will DC travel to chaos or light to do content or hang out with friends, the fact they are going ahead with spreading an already medium sized community over an entirely new DC is ridiculous, and sure it might peak a little bit at release of 7.0, and then what when it dies down ? People will be stuck there on a dead datacenter and will be forced to pay to move.

    Also it really is time to stop talking about this game "growing", it isnt, if anything its stable or trending down slightly thanks to there being barely any content, I could pull up charts number but people will yell that it isnt accurate (yet it is).
    It may not grow as much right now but wait until 7.0 and we'll see a rise again, like with EW but that's just speculations.
    As for how the experience going to be like when we get brand new servers on a new DC, it's hard to say. It's been over a decade since we had brand new DC for EU playerbase and game has changed a lot since 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    The problem is that a lot of people are currently satisfied with things as-is:
    I mean I am xD? My goal was to own multiple plots to decorate and I'd say I been successful with my four plots. That's all I care about.

    Players are unsatisfied with a lot of things, some even quit their subscription and it achieves absolutely " Nothing ". Mustering up all players of Dynamis to protest is unrealistic and even if you could Dynamis by default is the minority DC. This problem also isn't new since other Datacenters have had this issue, some? even before Data-Center traveling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    So i thought of a solution. make all worlds congested in aether, crystal and primal. that funnels all newly created characters to dynamis only. its a elegant solution but one i think should be explored and done.
    You'd have to temporarily "break" datacenter travel as well. Otherwise, they will just do what they do now. But even saying that people would leave en masse if they knew you were going to do it. Plus, it's also super shifty. A better solution would be to figure out cross dc queuing so that your server choice is irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    The problem is that a lot of people are currently satisfied with things as-is:


    So, how do you change the infrastructure for this game while keeping those people happy? They like the system as-is. Maybe they like being in a dead DC. This is likely why Square Enix won't do any upgrades because people just like everything they're currently doing. The fanbase of this game is very easy to please, Square can throw anything at them, and they'll like it no matter what it is. It's hard to incentivize drastic and costly changes when everyone basically likes everything no matter what it is.
    Also, people like me will just leave Dynamis and fix their problem. It was a selfish move, and I regret losing my old FC, but the queue times are fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    Also, people like me will just leave Dynamis and fix their problem. It was a selfish move, and I regret losing my old FC, but the queue times are fantastic.
    It sucks having to DC travel to just to do things like Bozja/Zadnor and Eureka.
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