Why Is Dynamis Dead

[Final-Fantasy]

I'm pretty sure they said they would consider adding another 4. It's not definite yet.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8a3986554a2#05

"In the first phase of the expansion, scheduled for August 2022, one new logical data center will be established and four new Worlds will be added under it. In the second phase of the expansion, we plan to add four more new Worlds under the newly established logical DC, resulting in a four-logical-DC configuration of 8:8:8:8."

Its Official, 8 Worlds on Dynamis.

[caffe_macchiato]

at some point DC travel will start taking lots of time. I've been getting some 20 minutes queues in prime time and they will only get worse as time goes by.

That’s not good, that’s terrible. People on Crystal (the most populous DC) already have to go to Aether for any high-end content because everyone else is there (cyclical effect). They still travel, they simply don’t travel back. That means no FC or CWLS. It’s gutted the community of this game. And Dynamis is even worse, because we have to transfer for a lot more than they do. We can’t even do PvP. Transferring will never stop until Square gives us cross-DC queues.

Honestly, what the hell is going on with this company? They put their money in Forspoken (sometimes called Flopspoken) while their most profitable title has issues? The same people who ran Square during 1.0 are running it now. It’s only a matter of time before they screw things up yet again.

[Seraphor]

They made the mistake of creating the new Dynamis Datacentre with only new servers, instead of migrating existing servers across to it.
This might have worked in JP, Oceania because it was their first Datacenter, and maybe even the EU.

But Americans have this weird tendency to desire specific servers and specific Datacenters, to bandwagon. The fact that Crystal is uniquely regarded as a casual/roleplay datacenter, and Aether is the hardcore raiding datacenter when no other servers or datacenters in the world have this sort of thing. And so American players simply didn't migrate to Dynamis, forcing the few who did to travel back to Aether/Crystal for queues. They would rather bid against thousands of other prospective house buyers on Crystal, than claim a free house on Dynamis.

You could even say Datacenter travel was a mistake. If those who were forced to migrate to the new Datacenter were also forced to PLAY on that Datacenter, there wouldn't be as much of a problem. But Americans have to follow the largest crowd, so Datacenter travel has saturated all players onto one Datacenter instead of spreading them across multiples.

[TaleraRistain]

They made the mistake of creating the new Dynamis Datacentre with only new servers, instead of migrating existing servers across to it.
This might have worked in JP, Oceania because it was their first Datacenter, and maybe even the EU.

But Americans have this weird tendency to desire specific servers and specific Datacenters, to bandwagon. The fact that Crystal is uniquely regarded as a casual/roleplay datacenter, and Aether is the hardcore raiding datacenter when no other servers or datacenters in the world have this sort of thing. And so American players simply didn't migrate to Dynamis, forcing the few who did to travel back to Aether/Crystal for queues. They would rather bid against thousands of other prospective house buyers on Crystal, than claim a free house on Dynamis.

You could even say Datacenter travel was a mistake. If those who were forced to migrate to the new Datacenter were also forced to PLAY on that Datacenter, there wouldn't be as much of a problem. But Americans have to follow the largest crowd, so Datacenter travel has saturated all players onto one Datacenter instead of spreading them across multiples.

They probably didn't want to have what happened when they peeled off servers from the original NA DCs to create Crystal. People moved back in droves. And what exactly is wrong with being happy with the community you have and not wanting to be removed from it? Also, NA isn't just Americans. Dynamis is only barely 2 months old. Give it time.

[Seraphor]

They probably didn't want to have what happened when they peeled off servers from the original NA DCs to create Crystal. People moved back in droves. And what exactly is wrong with being happy with the community you have and not wanting to be removed from it? Also, NA isn't just Americans. Dynamis is only barely 2 months old. Give it time.

When it happened in the EU, we didn't have this problem.
EU was split into Light and Chaos, the existing servers were split evenly across them.
Sure, people had issues losing access to friends that would have been a world visit away but were now off limits on a different DC. The result was some moved from Light to Chaos, and some moved from Chaos to Light, to maintain those friendships. It was an even two-way split either way you swing it.

When Crystal (and then Dynamis) was created, you didn't get this with Americans. They didn't have an even split of some leaving Crystal and some joining Crystal, because it's not just about friendships for them, it's about server identity. Some players simply didn't want to be on Crystal, because Crystal had an identity they didn't like, and vice versa.
This is bizarre phenomenon unique to the NA servers.

If they took one server from each of the existing datacenters and moved it to Dynamis, all four Datacenters would have an even split of servers.
This might upset some players, but those players would be offered a free world transfer and house reimbursement. Say Siren gets moved to Dynamis, some Siren players might not like being on Dynamis, and so move back to an existing Aether server, while some other Aether inhabitants might want to folow their friends on Siren, and move to a Dynamis server. On average, it would be an even two-way migratory trade. But then you factor in American server identity and now that average migration becomes a mass exodus from Siren to other Aether servers.

[TaleraRistain]

When Crystal (and then Dynamis) was created, you didn't get this with Americans. They didn't have an even split of some leaving Crystal and some joining Crystal, because it's not just about friendships for them, it's about server identity. Some players simply didn't want to be on Crystal, because Crystal had an identity they didn't like, and vice versa.
This is bizarre phenomenon unique to the NA servers.

Crystal wasn't created with fresh servers. Crystal was a split of Aether and Primal. And people flooded back to the DCs they had been yanked off of because they never wanted to leave in the first place. It's fine if you were fine and dandy with it on EU. We weren't on NA and they probably remembered that so that's why they made the DC with fresh servers this time. Then we have a choice of going there or not going there.

Also, again, NA is not just US players.

[Seraphor]

Crystal wasn't created with fresh servers. Crystal was a split of Aether and Primal. And people flooded back to the DCs they had been yanked off of because they never wanted to leave in the first place. It's fine if you were fine and dandy with it on EU. We weren't on NA and they probably remembered that so that's why they made the DC with fresh servers this time. Then we have a choice of going there or not going there.

Also, again, NA is not just US players.

You've just proven my point.
The move to Crystal didn't result in a two-way migration, with some moving back from Crystal and some moving TO Crystal, in order to keep friendship groups together, as would have happened anywhere else in the world.
Instead, everyone just moved off Crystal because Crystal was deemed the unpopular datacenter.

There shouldn't be such a thing as an unpopular server or datacenter, that's the cause of all of these congestion issues and 'dead' servers.

And again, NA is mostly US players, and the issue here is trends which the majority are responsible for.

[SillyCrow]

I expect Dynamis will start filling itself around 6.55 when the expansion is right around the corner. There will be media hype, maybe popular streamers will pick it up again. If SE advertises the ability to transfer for free, people might do it.

[Enjuden]

Pretty sure Dynamis won't be filled unless they take out an entire datacenter in NA. Not even an expansion will get people to play there.