Why Is Dynamis Dead

[Oizen]

Ima be honest I don't mind being on a ghost server, DC Travel has honestly kinda homogenized the game down to "want to run real content, better go to Aether" anyway. Crystal doesn't even get P8S clear parties on the regular, and if you wait one, you're waiting for a good hour.

But yeah, Dynamis is a dead data center.
Its something the game needed during Endwalker, but the game is at a low point right now, and honestly nothing on the roadmap for the rest of 6.x is going to change that.
If Dynamis is ever going to be anything more than it is, 7.0 needs to knock it out of the park.

[Ardeth]

Can’t say I have any sympathy for people who moved their max level characters to a new server without taking even two seconds to fully think it through and are now complaining about it because they somehow thought a new server would immediately be as active at higher levels as older ones.

To be fair I expected more than like 12 people. I don't do high end content and I can still go somewhere else to queue so who cares, but it still doesn't change the fact that it's dead. Maybe instead of a new data center they should've just added more servers to the data centers we had. Just my two cents.

[R041]

If they added 2-4 more servers to the existing Datacenter, and expanded housing WAY earlier then we would have been fine.

[Deveryn]

Talk about how it's dead after the holiday season is over. sheesh

[R041]

It's not just a season thing, it's the whole expac. So January better be amazing and pull in more people for longer than a week, or we're dead in the water until 7.0.

When you realize some servers have half of their total population being bots at certain times of the day, you look at our charts and realize they're technically way lower than shown. I genuinely believe each server (not DC), has around 200-300 bots. I doubt they're using Steam though, but still it's a form of data aggregation and gives us decent percentages. lol







And before you comment "YEAH BUT PLAYSTATION" - Most of the games on the Steam Charts are also multi-platform. So what, 3x it? We'd still be around #30.

[caffe_macchiato]

Talk about how it's dead after the holiday season is over. sheesh

December 11 isn't a holiday. In fact, most days in December aren't holidays.

I know that FFXIV isn't supposed to be a "main game", we're all supposed to be playing other stuff, there's tons of content but everyone's just busy with family, etc. But no other game has a blackout during holiday season. In fact, many games have special events during the holidays. So either you're putting up a straw man, or...perhaps, just maybe...the game is in fact going through a pretty tough drought right now, and Dynamis is affected extra hard. But the excuses are getting weaker and weaker.

Can’t say I have any sympathy for people who moved their max level characters to a new server without taking even two seconds to fully think it through and are now complaining about it because they somehow thought a new server would immediately be as active at higher levels as older ones.

And here's yet another excuse, but even weaker than most. Square Enix Holdings Co., Ltd. gave existing players a plethora of benefits, including a 1,000,000 gil bonus, for moving their characters. They also repeatedly advertised the expanded housing market. If existing characters were not supposed to move to Dynamis after all, then this is deceptive advertising and should be treated accordingly. So why are you not blaming the company? You're blaming players for doing exactly what they were told to do? Sure, queues are slower here, but why should it be impossible to queue for content? Perhaps datacenter travel had an averse effect across the board, and it's draining players from smaller DCs to play on larger ones? Maybe SE could rethink the system by adding cross-DC queues like other MMOs, making a win-win situation? Or are we going to just provide excuses? I'm eagerly awaiting the inevitable arguments as to why we should not have cross-DC queues.

[LaylaTsarra]

Or are we going to just provide excuses? I'm eagerly awaiting the inevitable arguments as to why we should not have cross-DC queues.

Those would be nice but hard to say if we'll get them one day. And I have a few alts on Dynamis one of which is a 90 level Gilga alt I moved to Hali. I don't see any reason why people would be opposed to cross DC DF but I could be wrong although given the way we have to DC travel I don't think that is something that would be too easy to accomplish.

I have no worries the DC will fill up and stand on it's own soon enough especially after the 4 additional servers are added and the servers have had time to build. Until then people are DC traveling for duties I know i do for PVP but in the long run Dynamis is going to be just fine.

In the meantime I'll enjoy my Beachfront private in Mist and my Lavender FC Medium on the water. I have no problem traveling to get things done and I only wish we on Materia could do the same.

[Silvarer]

December 11 isn't a holiday. In fact, most days in December aren't holidays.

I know that FFXIV isn't supposed to be a "main game", we're all supposed to be playing other stuff, there's tons of content but everyone's just busy with family, etc. But no other game has a blackout during holiday season. In fact, many games have special events during the holidays. So either you're putting up a straw man, or...perhaps, just maybe...the game is in fact going through a pretty tough drought right now, and Dynamis is affected extra hard. But the excuses are getting weaker and weaker.



And here's yet another excuse, but even weaker than most. Square Enix Holdings Co., Ltd. gave existing players a plethora of benefits, including a 1,000,000 gil bonus, for moving their characters. They also repeatedly advertised the expanded housing market. If existing characters were not supposed to move to Dynamis after all, then this is deceptive advertising and should be treated accordingly. So why are you not blaming the company? You're blaming players for doing exactly what they were told to do? Sure, queues are slower here, but why should it be impossible to queue for content? Perhaps datacenter travel had an averse effect across the board, and it's draining players from smaller DCs to play on larger ones? Maybe SE could rethink the system by adding cross-DC queues like other MMOs, making a win-win situation? Or are we going to just provide excuses? I'm eagerly awaiting the inevitable arguments as to why we should not have cross-DC queues.

I’m not saying people shouldn’t have transferred characters at all, just that they need to put some thought into it first and be aware of what they’re getting into. The majority of players are not going to transfer to new servers because of the ties they already have on their own, that should be self-evident.

Just because something is advertised doesn’t mean you have to leap at the chance to get it immediately. Also the one million Gil doesn’t apply to transferred characters, only new characters that were rolled on the new worlds. I transferred one of my low level alts there and didn’t get any money at all, so I don’t know why you’re trying to use that as part of your argument.

Also why would anyone argue against cross-DC queues? I certainly wouldn’t object if they did that.

[Brandt_Nunh]

The majority of these posts from people not even having their MAIN here are garbage.

"I play an alt on dynamis and its fine, i do it for the story"

Garbage, that's what NG+ is for.

No one has a legit reason for alts in FFXIV unless storage/retainer usage.

Utterly ridiculous. I have mains on several different DCs and I've ONLY been playing my Dynamis "alts" for the last month. I go through phases, and my main only comes out during the first few weeks after a big patch. "You don't play the way I play" doesn't make the way others play "garbage."

[Jojoya]

Pretty much ^

And it's hilarious everyone posting that the servers aren't an issue aren't even on Dynamis, they have "alts" they play with for an hour.

"I have an alt there, people who want Dynamis to succeed should play on Dynamis instead"
Says the guy using an alt to LEAVE there.

You act as if SE has control over peoples decisons, they don't, and you don't.

This "IS" whats happening. Its not getting better and people aren't going to sit in que for 2 hours "hoping" it improves.
They'll DC leave, and stop being hypocrites who are using alts to leave in the first place.

Who's just leaving an alt there? You?

It's not me. I'm actively playing on Marilith several hours a day, about twice the time I've been spending on Coeurl lately.

I've been queueing for content solo on my Dynamis main, and with FC on one of my other Marilith alts depending on what part of MSQ they're working on. Longest queue time I've had yet is 13 minutes. Most of the time it's been less than 5 if not nearly instant. What's really been nice is the near instant queues when FC members need to get a trial done but there are only 3 or 4 of us queuing together.

I do know that players are having problems with PvP queues (I don't PvP so not personal experience). If that's your complaint, then yes it's a problem. It's why there are a few groups on Dynamis actively organizing PvP events to get more into those queues so they go faster.

I have yet to hear anyone else complaining about any other queue times and I'm part of 7 active cwls plus a couple of Dynamis specific Discords. Find it difficult to believe that there's not a flood of complaints in those places if things are as bad as you try to claim.

Make of it what you will. If you transferred to Dynamis expecting the exact same experience you had on your old world, that's on you. Anyone with a brain knows it takes a few months for new worlds to get going as players work on things that have to be started from scratch like housing and FCs, doing gathering for crafting materials when in the past there would have been a good supply ready to buy off the marketboard, etc.

Stay or leave as you want. I'll be staying.

No one has a legit reason for alts in FFXIV unless storage/retainer usage.

There are plenty of legit reasons even if they don't apply to what you're personally interested in. Chill out.

I moved here for free and honestly I'm going back. The server I picked is a ghost town. I've tried several times to find players and the most I've seen is a couple dozen. The world party finder is dead and the data center one isn't much better.

I'm not an endgame player, by any metric, but if it seems dead to my casual butt I'm gonna say she's dead.

Find players to do what, though?

I know players who are organizing weekly Eureka and Bozja groups. I know players who are organizing FATE farms. I know players who are organizing map parties. The S rank spawners are extremely busy though we are a bit behind on running hunt trains.

If people are looking for instant gratification, it's going to take a while for the population on Dynamis to build up to the point it can provide that.

I don't think I know a single person who transferred to Dynamis that isn't transferring somewhere else as soon as their transfer lockout is up.

I can only imagine the state of those servers when that happens.

I know many who are going to stay because they're happier on Dynamis than they were in the drama-filled communities they left behind.

To each their own.

It's not just a season thing, it's the whole expac. So January better be amazing and pull in more people for longer than a week, or we're dead in the water until 7.0.

When you realize some servers have half of their total population being bots at certain times of the day, you look at our charts and realize they're technically way lower than shown. I genuinely believe each server (not DC), has around 200-300 bots. I doubt they're using Steam though, but still it's a form of data aggregation and gives us decent percentages. lo


And before you comment "YEAH BUT PLAYSTATION" - Most of the games on the Steam Charts are also multi-platform. So what, 3x it? We'd still be around #30.

You're trying to draw numbers out of the internet to prove something and it's not working because your assumptions are wrong.

Steam doesn't track all users for a game. They track the Steam users. Those numbers only mean something if the majority of a game's players are PC users and they are using Steam to log into FFXIV.

I don't think SE has ever shared a breakdown of FFXIV players by platform. I also doubt that the majority of PC users are using Steam for FFXIV considering the annoying license issues.

It also doesn't matter how many other people are playing a game or how that game's numbers compare to other games. All that matters is whether or not you enjoy it.

If you're not enjoying it, it's probably not a good idea to waste money on it. Go spend your money on one of those other Steam titles instead.

December 11 isn't a holiday. In fact, most days in December aren't holidays.

I know that FFXIV isn't supposed to be a "main game", we're all supposed to be playing other stuff, there's tons of content but everyone's just busy with family, etc. But no other game has a blackout during holiday season. In fact, many games have special events during the holidays. So either you're putting up a straw man, or...perhaps, just maybe...the game is in fact going through a pretty tough drought right now, and Dynamis is affected extra hard. But the excuses are getting weaker and weaker.



And here's yet another excuse, but even weaker than most. Square Enix Holdings Co., Ltd. gave existing players a plethora of benefits, including a 1,000,000 gil bonus, for moving their characters. They also repeatedly advertised the expanded housing market. If existing characters were not supposed to move to Dynamis after all, then this is deceptive advertising and should be treated accordingly. So why are you not blaming the company? You're blaming players for doing exactly what they were told to do? Sure, queues are slower here, but why should it be impossible to queue for content? Perhaps datacenter travel had an averse effect across the board, and it's draining players from smaller DCs to play on larger ones? Maybe SE could rethink the system by adding cross-DC queues like other MMOs, making a win-win situation? Or are we going to just provide excuses? I'm eagerly awaiting the inevitable arguments as to why we should not have cross-DC queues.

Deveryn didn't claim December 11th was a holiday. All he said was wait for the holiday season to end.

I'm guessing you're not from the US. Holiday seasons starts the week of Thanksgiving and extends through New Year's Day. People are more focused on holiday preparations and celebrations than their normal activities.

You're also ignoring that we're at the tail end of a patch cycle. Player participation is always down at the end of one, then increases once the next patch is released.

And where is your twisted "false advertising" coming from? Been into the rum-spiked eggnog a bit early?

No one has been denied transfer bonuses. Everyone who wanted a house has had opportunity to get one. It is not impossible to queue for content.

The only problem is players transferring with false expectations of what it would be like on a new data center. That's on them for not thinking things through carefully.

Back when the new worlds were added, I posted a list of the downsides I could think of when it came to transferring to a new world and data center, and why the new data center would not be magical solution that some were calling it. Data center travel mitigates some but not all of those downsides.

I still transferred characters knowing of the downsides. I was prepared and so the low populations aren't bothering me. It's been a bit better than I expected to be honest.

SE can't help it if other players didn't think it through. No one was being forced to transfer to the new data center (which easily could have happened if SE pulled a couple of the existing worlds from their current data centers to jumpstart the new one). Everyone was allowed to choose.

I guess some of them chose poorly.