Thread: 2.0 in vain?

Originally Posted by Sinzya

The only single thing i can really agree with this guy about is... I really don't know why im grinding guild leves, sure they have a quest box but I feel they lack the pazzaz that I felt while watching the original opening video for this game. They portrayed it much more like a group experience but here I am doing the same leve's in the same zone with the same music against the same enemies for several hours on end. 90% of the time alone~

BTW: I really must say that the cinimatics in FFXIV are very well done and unlike any other mmorpg i've played out there beside from ffxi. If you want a story you can rely on getting it here.

Have you perhaps thought of doing leve-linking with your friends?
It's pretty worth it! You can usually ramp up the difficulty by a lot.

Hell the other day I was doing Faction Leves with a PUG, good heavens those drakes were murderous, guy set the difficulty at +9, we were facing a small group of L59 foes, oh god. It was a boss battle in and of itself D:

Originally Posted by Skies

Have you perhaps thought of doing leve-linking with your friends?
It's pretty worth it! You can usually ramp up the difficulty by a lot.

Hell the other day I was doing Faction Leves with a PUG, good heavens those drakes were murderous, guy set the difficulty at +9, we were facing a small group of L59 foes, oh god. It was a boss battle in and of itself D:

I have done leves with others a few times and it was fun, but nothing in this game has really made it mandatory to group, so other people dont seem to want to group up, thus I haven't actually made any friends in game.

The only game I'd consider leaving ffxiv for is ffxi.

I hate the be the bearer of bad news but Final Fantasy in general has alway been a grind fest. Even pre MMO. The model has always been to follow the story and at some point if you didn't grind a bit between you would get to a part in the story you couldn't do and spent then next few days grinding. The difference here is instead of controlling a party you are one person in that party. That will not change in 2.0 that will not change for ff15, 19, moogles be praised ff50. Grinding is as much a part of Final Fantasy and chocobos, moogles and Cid.

The endless repeatable quest model where you solo to max level on quests and then raid the same place for the next 6 months is really no different except the multiplayer in wow clones just means other people soloing around you and in ff it means the people you grind with.

I'm going to be very blunt and honest with you OP. If you have not put the time in to play the game for more than 2-4 weeks total you have no right complaining so critically about it.

Originally Posted by afk4life

I don't know what the stance on WoW is on this board but I'm going to assume it's neutral. While WoW was simple, it was also extremely fluid and excelled at what it was supposed to excel at.From FFXIV's 2.0 mission statement it still feels like one big overambitious project.

Calling 2.0 overambitious is an understatement. The way SE originally plugged it you'd think that it would fix every possible problem people have that it's surprising they didn't include it would run for public office to help fix your actual life too. I think 2.0 (or a Realm Reborn) is going to be very much the same game we have now. There is no reason why they couldn't implement all the fixes to the problems ARR is supposed to address in the CURRENT client. People think that something about the game prevents them from doing this?

FFXIV was such a disaster when first launched that I see little hope of it's revile. Indeed dropping FFXIV from the title would likely help a lot. Any connection to that name should best be avoided. How successful a launch a product has determines it's future. Attempting to "relaunch it" won't help because people aren't going to give a second look at it. They've been burned once, they aren't going to stick their hand into the fire again.