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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    So, we have 1000 starving people. We have 250 units of food, one unit for each person. But that's okay, because we gave 250 people food. We did a good thing! Then, we'll slowly try to give another 25 people some food next year. Maybe 50. Oh, but wait, we can't grow anymore food because there's a soil shortage. Oh, but we can add some soil we found, and create some independent greenhouses that each person can have, but it's not food really, it's a few crumbs.

    See where I am going with this? No, adding more supply doesn't address supply when you aren't supplying the demand. You are giving just enough to let them starve to the point they die off, or they become so famished they give up.
    Where are you going with this? You're trying to exaggerate ownership of a house in a video game as being comparable to a real life survival situation.

    You're in no danger of dying just because you can't get that house.

    But hey, let's take your analogy a step farther. You know what people do in real life when they can't get what they need to survive where they are? They move to where what they want can be obtained.

    There's a sea of empty plots in the ward where my Marilith character bought her house. Doesn't cost you a dime to move your character there unless you're already on a New world (which you aren't). The next lottery entry period starts tomorrow. You could be in a house on Sunday. You still get to play with friends thanks to the convenience of data center travel, which is also free to use.

    Or you can wait until next year and take your chance getting a house with the new ward additions. Maybe you'll get lucky. Maybe you won't. Maybe you'll still be complaining about how you're in danger of dying because you can't be bothered to pick up and go where houses are available.

    Yes, this system is crap. I 100% agree that SE should have done a better job from the start. Players shouldn't have to make a choice between being on the same world with their friends or having access to content.

    But they didn't and we're stuck with the system as it is. Knowing that it could have been otherwise doesn't make it so.

    You can either take advantage of the opportunities presented to you or you can go without a house.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 11-22-2022 at 08:02 AM.

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    Galbsadi Nailo
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    The new system is good in theory, except when EVERY PLOT ON HALICARNASSUS GOES TO PEOPLE WHO SNIPED IN ON THE LAST SECOND and they also don't even let you re-opt to an uncontested plot when someone decides they must have yours in particular.
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by galbsadi View Post
    The new system is good in theory, except when EVERY PLOT ON HALICARNASSUS GOES TO PEOPLE WHO SNIPED IN ON THE LAST SECOND and they also don't even let you re-opt to an uncontested plot when someone decides they must have yours in particular.
    Yeah, it's incredibly frustrating when it happens, it makes me wonder if those people are actually after a house or are just trolls who go after the 1 house with a bid in the area. First Lottery of the new worlds I had the only bid for about a day and lost to #2 because someone came by and sniped it at the last minute, while all the plots around had no bids. I didn't think random smalls in lavender beds were so hotly contested either.
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    Isrun Whitewood
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    Quote Originally Posted by galbsadi View Post
    The new system is good in theory, except when EVERY PLOT ON HALICARNASSUS GOES TO PEOPLE WHO SNIPED IN ON THE LAST SECOND and they also don't even let you re-opt to an uncontested plot when someone decides they must have yours in particular.
    It's unfortunate, but a lot of people wait to the last second to try to make sure they bid on something with the best chance for them to win. It's not a conspiracy. Had a friend end up with that issue, though thankfully he won his. Someone else I know lost out to a last minute bidder. It sucks, but it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Don't you have something better to do with your life?

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    Rika Beaufort
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    That's the definition of lottery - the odds are commonly exceedingly low. But this is a raffle. That's besides the point though.

    The lottery system is operating just fine. It picks one player from the list of bids. No placard spamming. No fighting with auto-clickers. It is doing exactly what it should. The problem is the supply. Lottery was never designed to fix supply. And in the near future, SE is adding more wards which will address supply.

    And my advice for when that happens - if you own no house, go after a smalls only. Mediums and Larges will have a much higher volume of bids by players that own smalls, mediums or not plot at all. Whereas smalls will likely only have bids by the homeless. Your best shot is the first lottery period on a small.
    Have to respectfully disagree. On Coeurl more often then not smalls have way way more bids then medium and larges. Problem is we have way too many homeless ppl on our server where even our apartments have a hard time meeting demands in some wards. So I've just started bidding on a medium or large as I've had better odds.
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    Last edited by HippeusOmega; 12-19-2022 at 11:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyssa View Post
    I mean, random luck has nothing to do with skill.
    Sure it does, get luckier
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    Kyssa Kha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya View Post
    Sure it does, get luckier
    I've been lucky, but that doesn't mean everyone has.

    Hopefully, the addition of new wards helps folks out though.
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    There is househorders everywhere and there is quite alot people that just keep on making FC's on other servers and the likes to then buy an additional house... and call it being enthusiast...

    If you do housing in FFXIV, you are hardly a house enthusiast at all.
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Halicarnassus
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    The problem isn't the format, it's lack of enforcement and prevention of abuse. You can throw as many plots as you want at it, but people will just make alts, transfer x mil gil to those alts, and buy up 10, 20, 30+ houses, hell some have entire wards to themselves they make into private RP villages. Excess houses get snapped up because nothing prevents greedy players from doing it, and then when new players come in and want to try out the housing feature, they get stonewalled because everything is already spoken for and there's nothing else. The new plots and new worlds are going to last a few months at most, a few lottery cycles before all the larges and mediums are snapped up, and then the remaining smalls bought on alt chracters.
    If adding new wards is SE's accepted solution, they're basically going to have to commit to adding about 2 new wards to every area and world every odd patch to keep up with players on the current implementation and I doubt that's feasible in any way.
    There are probbaly enough plots in the game already for any player who actively plays to get one reasonably if they didn't allow multiple houses per person, but that's not the reality we're in now or that they've committed to.
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