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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camishami View Post
    I feel like i have absolutely no chance at winning the lottery. There is'nt enough housing for everyone and it feels like the JUMBO CACTPOT i've been playing since 2012 and have never won that either, so i feel like the lottery system is the same, and makes me wanna quit this game sometimes.
    This is what folks been saying since people first started to suggest it.

    Hard not to say, "I told you so" but ...
    ... I won't, because the old situation was not good, the new one isn't good, and there really IS no solution out there.

    We all just suffer together, like family at thanksgiving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camishami View Post
    I feel like i have absolutely no chance at winning the lottery. There is'nt enough housing for everyone and it feels like the JUMBO CACTPOT i've been playing since 2012 and have never won that either, so i feel like the lottery system is the same, and makes me wanna quit this game sometimes.
    I won a house right where I wanted it, and I also was winner 420 of my cactpot lottery. Sounds like a skill issue fren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya View Post
    I won a house right where I wanted it, and I also was winner 420 of my cactpot lottery. Sounds like a skill issue fren
    I mean, random luck has nothing to do with skill.
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    The system works as intended. Just because you can't win something doesn't mean it doesn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    The system works as intended. Just because you can't win something doesn't mean it doesn't work.
    Agreed, the lottery does work. It may take awhile, or it may never work for some, but it does work. Someone always wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camishami View Post
    I feel like i have absolutely no chance at winning the lottery.
    That's the definition of lottery - the odds are commonly exceedingly low. But this is a raffle. That's besides the point though.

    The lottery system is operating just fine. It picks one player from the list of bids. No placard spamming. No fighting with auto-clickers. It is doing exactly what it should. The problem is the supply. Lottery was never designed to fix supply. And in the near future, SE is adding more wards which will address supply.

    And my advice for when that happens - if you own no house, go after a smalls only. Mediums and Larges will have a much higher volume of bids by players that own smalls, mediums or not plot at all. Whereas smalls will likely only have bids by the homeless. Your best shot is the first lottery period on a small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    And in the near future, SE is adding more wards which will address supply.
    That's the only part I don't agree with here, because they aren't addressing the core issue - supply. This is only adding another bandage to the ever-growing tear in the skin of housing.

    If they wanted to address it, they would instance housing - as has been discussed, mutilated, chopped up and all sorts of conversations about it here. And, as I've said before - the only reason housing is designed the way it is now is for Yoshi-P's pride and nothing more. He would rather feed his delusions of a 'neighborhood feeling' than solve the problem and make a lot of users happier with this game. The problem is, he can have both, but he just doesn't do it. Pride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    That's the only part I don't agree with here, because they aren't addressing the core issue - supply. This is only adding another bandage to the ever-growing tear in the skin of housing.

    If they wanted to address it, they would instance housing - as has been discussed, mutilated, chopped up and all sorts of conversations about it here. And, as I've said before - the only reason housing is designed the way it is now is for Yoshi-P's pride and nothing more. He would rather feed his delusions of a 'neighborhood feeling' than solve the problem and make a lot of users happier with this game. The problem is, he can have both, but he just doesn't do it. Pride.
    That's a strange response. "Adding more supply doesn't address supply".

    ???

    It does address supply. What we don't know is how adequately it will address it for each world.

    If you meant to say that it is not a final solution to the problem, then I'd agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    That's a strange response. "Adding more supply doesn't address supply".

    ???

    It does address supply. What we don't know is how adequately it will address it for each world.

    If you meant to say that it is not a final solution to the problem, then I'd agree.
    So, we have 1000 starving people. We have 250 units of food, one unit for each person. But that's okay, because we gave 250 people food. We did a good thing! Then, we'll slowly try to give another 25 people some food next year. Maybe 50. Oh, but wait, we can't grow anymore food because there's a soil shortage. Oh, but we can add some soil we found, and create some independent greenhouses that each person can have, but it's not food really, it's a few crumbs.

    See where I am going with this? No, adding more supply doesn't address supply when you aren't supplying the demand. You are giving just enough to let them starve to the point they die off, or they become so famished they give up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    So, we have 1000 starving people. We have 250 units of food, one unit for each person. But that's okay, because we gave 250 people food. We did a good thing!
    Bad example because food is a resource ment to survive. To get a closer example:

    You can only give 250 units of food that are just enough for surviving, by splitting those resources, both wont survive. And as a result, those 250 units are just enough to save 250 people. The 750 other people in this case are out of luck. (this example fails at the part that the next cycle the people would be dead, which in ff isnt the case).

    And adding supply, even if it would have been just 900 units while 1000 is demanded, is still greatly going to help. Its not optimal, but its a major improvement anyway. But lets say we add 900 plots: Instead of 750 that are out of luck, its then just 100 (yes, more supply means less interested people will also join in! it wont make it 0 demand). An 85% decrease! This then also reduces pressure upon later cycles. So your 25 extra units that are slowly given out, then are only going to face competition from 100 people instead of 750. So even here, it makes it more graceful.
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    Last edited by UkcsAlias; 11-21-2022 at 08:11 PM.

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