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  1. #11
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    ZiraZ's Avatar
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    Zira Zira
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    but doton looks pretty
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  2. #12
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    RyuuZero's Avatar
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    Ryu Kusanagi
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    Cerberus
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    Raiton is 650 potency, Doton is 480 potency. You would be better off using Raiton and there are no instances in that fight where Alex is untargetable and you have the chance to pre cast Doton.
    I'm not arguing that Raiton is the better skill for Single Target, my point is that you cannot move while time is stopped and only the Doton DoT actively ticks even in stopped time ^^
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  3. #13
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    Leon Keyh
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuuZero View Post
    I'm not arguing that Raiton is the better skill for Single Target, my point is that you cannot move while time is stopped and only the Doton DoT actively ticks even in stopped time ^^
    Sure, what he's saying though is that if you can use Doton, you can use Raiton and it's better to use Raiton. It's not like you can cast Doton but not Raiton in that instance.
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  4. #14
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    L'tanan Tyanu
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 82
    At some point Square needs to just write "Use Raiton instead of this against one target" in Doton's description
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  5. #15
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    RyuuZero's Avatar
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    Ryu Kusanagi
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    Cerberus
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by baklava151 View Post
    At some point Square needs to just write "Use Raiton instead of this against one target" in Doton's description
    My Idea about that is that the Monster/Boss straight up turns to the NIN and one hits them
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  6. #16
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    Yeasty Loins
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    Famfrit
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by baklava151 View Post
    At some point Square needs to just write "Use Raiton instead of this against one target" in Doton's description
    Imagine reading tooltips. Too tryhard no thanks.
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    Last edited by Yeastyloins; 11-20-2022 at 11:05 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    So why is a game that refuses to add any real DPS meter/measuring mechanics, and will ban you for using one yourself, need to have DPS checks this tight anyway

  7. #17
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    Yeasty Loins
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    Famfrit
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuuZero View Post
    I'm not arguing that Raiton is the better skill for Single Target, my point is that you cannot move while time is stopped and only the Doton DoT actively ticks even in stopped time ^^
    Using doton in that scenario is a dps loss regardless though so its a moot point if it still ticks in time stop. Even more so if it means losing a raiton during a buff window.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    So why is a game that refuses to add any real DPS meter/measuring mechanics, and will ban you for using one yourself, need to have DPS checks this tight anyway

  8. #18
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    Eristede Kell
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Friends don't let friends cast Doton in single-target fights.
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  9. #19
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    Juke Fm
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Isn't single target doton pre-pull on opener a good thing
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  10. #20
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    Mike Aettir
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jukebox12 View Post
    Isn't single target doton pre-pull on opener a good thing
    As mentioned by someone else earlier in this thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    This does not work anymore, hide cancels doton.
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