[NIN] Enhanced Meisui is a wasted slot...

[Rongway]

So, first off, unlocking buffs have zero effect on the timer of the skill they unlock. Again, you do not need to worry about "that the replacement time and recast do not total more than 120s." The replacement does not affect the recast time, nor does it delay the ability to activate it. It's not like Trick Attack was ever delayed by the 20s of Suiton, so it makes no sense to reduce the unlocked skill's recast time by the duration of the unlock buff or replacement period (which are the same thing, except in that the latter need not appear on your buff bar).

My point in re: the 120s total is if you marry Meisui to Ten Chi Jin but you do not reduce Meisui's cooldown by the replacement duration, then it will be possible for Meisui not to be ready the next time you use Ten Chi Jin. If you marry them, then the intent is that Meisui should be usable every time Ten Chi Jin is usable, rather than tracking its own two minute timer. Leaving Meisui on its own two minute timer leaves you with the possibility of using Meisui in the last second of the replacement period, and then the next time you use Ten Chi Jin it won't be usable until the last second of that replacement period. Therefore, you should reduce Meisui's recast timer by the duration that it replaces Ten Chi Jin so that it is always ready after using Ten Chi Jin. Really you could even just reduce Meisui's recast to 1s, since it would consume whatever Meisui Ready buff Ten Chi Jin granted.

??? I've not said otherwise. Why mention this?

You said:

That said, locking Meisui behind TCJ may not be ideal for QoL, especially in the open world or dungeon-running.

to which I replied:

What QoL does it serve to keep them two separate buttons though? Suiton only lasts 20s, so a 30s replacement period covers the entirety of Suiton's duration.

As in, locking Meisui behind TCJ would still allow you to use Meisui some time during the 20s that TCJ's Suiton lasts, and it would even be long enough to cover the non-optimal use of a real mudra charge to avoid losing a use of Meisui. So marrying them would not present a significant QoL detriment.

[Shurrikhan]

As in, locking Meisui behind TCJ would still allow you to use Meisui some time during the 20s that TCJ's Suiton lasts, and it would even be long enough to cover the non-optimal use of a real mudra charge to avoid losing a use of Meisui. So marrying them would not present a significant QoL detriment.

No one would reasonably think that your replacement would be even more restrictive than is presently the case. That doesn't give further merit to the change, though; it just reduces its cost. The merit is the option to save a hotbar slot, and that alone.

To you, being able to use Meisui outside of TCJ is not worth the button. To me, it is, hence my suggesting that Meisui still be placeable on one's hotbar even after having TCJ swap to Meisui for 20-30s after it applies Suiton.

I.e., sure, make the consolidation, but do NOT place the usual "※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar" on it. The TCJ -> Meisui consolidation should merely be a feature of TCJ, as might be done with any consolidation plugin, not a restriction on Meisui.