Please do not remove or lower Cloud Nine's appearance

[Sarevok_Thordin]

I'd get rid of the volcanic map LONG before I get rid of C9.

[Edelgarde]

Delete C9. Absolute worst map and the deaths you get is completely unjustified. Like imagine playing well and knowing when to retreat in a fight, but the absolute crap camera angles will not show that there was a tornado right behind you, completely knocking you back and causing you to be out of position where the enemies can now finish you off after the help of the tornado. Imagine that. Not only that, you can never predict when the next turbulence will come, so by the time it's coming, you may have used it during a crucial moment of the fight and you just have to prepare to take it without your guard. Sometimes I park myself on a potion so I basically don't take damage, but I take wasting time damage. So it's not your fault when you get screwed over by it. You should never be holding onto your guard for the next turbulence. That is an awful mechanic and purely RNG. You have no control over it.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Tbh I don't even mind the tornados and gust mechanic.

I do mind the objectively awful map layout in regards to using objects / walls for cover, like anyone who has dabbled minimally in map design can tell you this map is awful with a single tight checkpoint in the middle without any flanks.

It is Ranged and WHM heaven, any melee that needs to engage has to go right into your territory and unless they can actually capitalise on their engagement, they have nothing to play around. I mean look at this map objectively and tell me "this is a good map". I can understand the hate on Volcanic Heart, but what Volcanic Heart does right is giving various areas to hide behind, which I believe is crucial in good MMORPG pvp maps, or any good pvp maps period.

Literally just open boxes on open boxes.

[Valence]

So C9 is not okay because it favors ranged, but volcano map is somehow okay even if it favors melees (and some casters that don't give a shit about walls anymore now...)? Have you tried even casting on volcano map? It's hell

[Ransu]

So C9 is not okay because it favors ranged, but volcano map is somehow okay even if it favors melees (and some casters that don't give a shit about walls anymore now...)? Have you tried even casting on volcano map? It's hell

As someone who plays almost exclusively BLM and BRD in CC I love the volcano map. LOS works both ways and doesn't favor melee any more than it does ranged. Its much easier to get away when there is a lot of cover around you. An open map is slightly easier on a ranged, but its also way easier to dive on a ranged player out in the open as well with little to no options for escape routes because....its an open area. C9 is straight trash for everyone. Its just slightly less trash if you're ranged and not getting dived on...which only happens in low ranks because people don't know how to focus fire.

[Elfidan]

Listen C9 needs to stay so I can continue to push people into tornados and follow up with bind. Why would you try to steal my sunshine like this?

[VictorSpoils]

Listen C9 needs to stay so I can continue to push people into tornados and follow up with bind. Why would you try to steal my sunshine like this?

Meanwhile, Palaistra offers nothing interesting and was virtually unwinnable on my end for whatever reason. If any map gets canned they should start there.

[Elfidan]

Meanwhile, Palaistra offers nothing interesting and was virtually unwinnable on my end for whatever reason. If any map gets canned they should start there.

Shh, don't complain about the pokemon stadium. You're going to cause threads about adding vote down to forum posts. xD

Real talk: I hate Palaistra. I know it's an unreasonable hate but it's my hate.

[Nikoto]

Shh, don't complain about the pokemon stadium. You're going to cause threads about adding vote down to forum posts. xD

Real talk: I hate Palaistra. I know it's an unreasonable hate but it's my hate.

It's kinda boring, but I like the aesthetics.

[Ransu]

Palaistra is the most balanced map.