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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    It's every bit as emotional as your response just now. This community is incapable of thinking for itself. Someone made a video about how the 'two minute meta' is 'destroying the game'? Guess what this forum is going to be talking for about for months, despite the fact that raid buffs have been central to optimization for years. WF cleared with a particular comp? The reason players are struggling with their week 52 clear right now with 7x Echo is because they're not using that exact same comp. Literally unplayable. The more people who stop parroting and start questioning, the more we'll see this cycle break.

    One of my favorite moments was when the WF for Unending Coil ran with a DRK at a time when the job was believed by the community at large to be the absolute bottom of the barrel. When questioned about why they picked it over the then dominant WAR, the answer was 'I like playing DRK.'
    There is nothing emotional about my response. Your argument goes entirely against the data we have readily available and your only source of evidence is "raiders are emotional". The rest of this is little more than a tirade which has nothing to do with my response. Casual players following a meta they don't properly comprehend has nothing to do with tank balance. Nobody is arguing all tanks (or all jobs) can't clear content. They're arguing about their imbalances. Dark Knight isn't simply doing 50 more DPS and people are whinging. It's dealing almost 400 more aDPS in some fights.

    Going back to actual statistics, the argument rDPS is perfectly fine for tanks doesn't hold up when Paladin is actually the strongest rDPS tank in P5S yet Dark Knight has a staggering 61% representation at the speed kill level compared to Paladin's 2%. You can't dismiss this massive a gap with a handwave "raiders are just emotional". These are speed killers whose entire content is based around using the strongest jobs available. There's a reason Dark Knight is overwhelmingly dominate in every single fight over the span of two full raid tiers and an Ultimate. It's simply better in overall capability. Once again, if you want to disagree with FFlogs' metrics then by all means. However, that isn't the same argument.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 01-03-2023 at 05:33 AM.
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