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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolf View Post
    Do you know that it's pointless? I mean as far as we know it doesn't effect battle.

    I'd personally prefer to see someone jump up a ledge than hover up a ledge. I'll never understand why people are so against jumping in a game with so many ledges.

    Yoshida-san did say in one of the interviews that it's just there to be able to jump and will have no place in battle. ^^;

    Ah, here it is, from Eorzeapedia's interview:

    "Yoshida tapped on the space bar and his male miqo’te jumped up (though due to the nature of the current version there wasn’t any animation for it. There are no plans for using the jump for any elements of gameplay it’s just there for those that want to jump. You won’t be able to jump to avoid Ifrit’s attacks or anything."


    It really was just added to shut people up. Just...so people can jump... just to jump. Have fun bouncing everyone. >.>
    (I wouldn't mind an option to turn it off and not have to see useless bouncing).

    Edit: Apologies, someone already posted the quote. :3
    The bolded and underlined part sounds like platforming is out as well.
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    I like the idea. This way both sides get what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galliano View Post
    Since we will be having a jump action in 2.0 it would be really nice if the devs could add a simple option for you to toggle if you can see people jumping or not. I'm happy if people want to jump around for no reason but I don't really want to see people hopping all over cities, so a simple option to toggle it off would be great!

    /display jump on /display jump off would do fine, or an option in the menu.
    Just blacklist them if they dont want to sotp being stupid. if I jump off a ledge to lower ground, what are you going to see? it's just going to look even stupider with the animation off.

    People are you are predicting a problem that just isn't going to be a problem. Have you jump haters really played any other mmorpg? people dont just stand in town and jump up and down constantly. It just doesn't happen the way people think it does. I played WoW for a few years and I never saw this behavior.

    There is no need for a toggle switch for this, and I don't see how it can be implemented. your character is moving up and down on the z axis. There will be trivial applications for this (e.g. climbing over small objects like rocks that would otherwise block you or disrupt movement). Yes they said it wouldn't impact gameplay, but this just means "can't avoid damage from ifrit's lava splats and cracks by jumping." Even if you toggled the animation off, you'd still have to see the person moving in the air.

    (I wouldn't mind an option to turn it off and not have to see useless bouncing).
    It's simply not going to happen. There is no reason to turn it off. It won't have any battle application no, but as I said, there will still very likely be more minor functional purpose. Like you said, this isn't going to suddenly turn into super mario galaxy or something. people are getting bent up over nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolf View Post
    Do you know that it's pointless? I mean as far as we know it doesn't effect battle.

    I'd personally prefer to see someone jump up a ledge than hover up a ledge. I'll never understand why people are so against jumping in a game with so many ledges.
    well it is kinda pointless. cause you just walk over most ledges anyway. they only added jump cause the people just bitched and bitched till they added it. which that effort couldve been put to better use.
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    I never understood the whole "ADD JUMPING BECAUSE LEDGES ARE STUPID" thing.

    You don't want a jump mechanic. You just don't want them in the way. The game was designed from inception not to included jumping. The team in charge of map creation knew this. Any ledge, hill, or bump in the terrain which is impassible is not just there because the designer is bad. It is there to prevent you from just walking over it.

    With this in mind if they add jumping and feed this information to the map team all you're doing is forcing them to make the ledges BIGGER. You can't magically parkour through Griddy any faster then before. Now instead we'll have an annoying animation that people will spam for the sake of spamming, then get those same people whining on the forums about how Jumping is useless because they still can't get over what was never intended to be gotten over in the first place.
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    You just don't want them in the way. The game was designed from inception not to included jumping.
    Except that's no longer true, because the game is being redesigned post inception.

    Now instead we'll have an annoying animation that people will spam for the sake of spamming,
    It's not going to happen, it's an invalid argument with no way of proving. You don't see anyone spamming emotes or spamming shout with useless garbage all the time, it's an occasional thing at worst. People aren't giong to spam jump any more than they do anything else. I guarantee you, After 2.0 being out for a month nobody is going to even give a damn. I can't understand for the life of me how anybody could possibly be so bothered by this, especially when they don't really know what's actually going to happen.
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    With this in mind if they add jumping and feed this information to the map team all you're doing is forcing them to make the ledges BIGGER.
    then by all means, make them bigger. make them so big I shouldn't be able to jump over them. as it is, if there is a 1 foot high wall and I can't get over it? damn right that's stupid as hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Except that's no longer true, because the game is being redesigned post inception.

    It's not going to happen, it's an invalid argument with no way of proving. You don't see anyone spamming emotes or spamming shout with useless garbage all the time, it's an occasional thing at worst. People aren't giong to spam jump any more than they do anything else. I guarantee you, After 2.0 being out for a month nobody is going to even give a damn. I can't understand for the life of me how anybody could possibly be so bothered by this, especially when they don't really know what's actually going to happen.
    Hey now, you leave logic OUT OF THIS!

    Jumping is BAD! And SCARY!
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    From the looks of things, the only ones bitching here is those that don't want it. This topic been discussed before, and dismissed as not an issue. I mean even the director/producer want it implemented. So, c'mon just deal with it.

    I should get a toggle off feature for all emotes, and crafting actions then. Oh /sit. Yeah toggle off /sit because that is also a pointless and unnecessary action I don't want to see, it is so annoying when I see people do it.
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    Last edited by Andrien; 06-10-2012 at 04:01 PM.

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