Pointless jump is pointless.

It's funny how quick the people who said "Jumping wont ruin anything let me have it" are the first to deny others the abillity to ask for the same right to toggle it off.

I think people are also mis-interpreting Yoshida intent with jump, until we know otherwise we wont be able to "Jump" over or onto object any more than we can walk up/down cliff faces.

Originally Posted by Nox

While choice is a lovely thing, I would first want to see what not seeing the jump animation while its happening would look like before I agree with a toggle to hide it. I mean if the character jumps but you don't see the animation, what WOULD you see? I find it hard to believe that it would be as if nothing happened (like now for instance, we have no jump... so would a toggle make it look like NOTHING happened at all? as in the character stays on the ground and no movement indicating an action was performed shows?) I mean imagine I jump over something, would a person with the toggle off just see me disappear and reappear where I landed? O.0" that would be odd as hell honestly.

Well that's just it. According to the interviews, we won't be jumping over anything. It's just an animation to please those who wanted it and 'adds nothing to the gameplay'.

Originally Posted by Gramul

Well that's just it. According to the interviews, we won't be jumping over anything. It's just an animation to please those who wanted it and 'adds nothing to the gameplay'.

the interview doesn't specifically say we wont be able to jump over anything though. all we know is that we wont be able to evade anything with jump. I suppose a clarification from the devs would be nice.

Toggle jump is not necessary. Go login to any MMO right now, rift, WoW, Tera, and you don't see 20 people in town jumping jumping jumping no. It's normal. They all just stand in one place. Occasionally you'll see someone running and jumping, but that's it.

Originally Posted by Nox

so please ever knowing one, tell me how a toggle will be the oh so wonderful solution of turning jump off so you won't see the jump mechanic happen.

I'm dying to see what this would look like in game- not seeing a jump mechanic happen even though it is happening. /facepalm.

The same would happen as if it were a cutscene/contextual jump of sorts.

In the end this entire thread boils down to not wanting jump, which is why I said the devs are already adding it due to not only PLAYER request but because it is an MMO standard.

Wrong.

1. It was requested as an "option" that people felt they couldn't live without.
2. It's being implemented as fanfare.

Those in support of adding jump as an "option" and/or because they couldn't live without have no right to oppose a toggle feature. Furthermore, it doesn't matter to those that aren't going to see it how it'd work; any attempt at opposing this toggle is blatant hypocrisy for those supporting the option to have jump implemented in the first place.

I think the answer should be:
No jump toggle, no gfx/animation toggles of any kind. All settings on high, if your machine can't handle it don't play. Don't want shadows/dust/physics/blah piss off we put them in you need to have them on.

Or just put in a jump toggle. IF jump is made more than just a /emote type thing then by all means make us all watch it all the time.

Originally Posted by Enfarious

Dunno if you noticed but I said I can deal, and turn around. Saying a toggle would be worth something isn't QQing, not being able to jump and wanting it gone cause i just can't figure out how to make it work would be.

So your also saying here that your ability to read is less than the tits, it's a non-functional jump mechanic, hence "No purpose". So let me know how your fince hopping goes.

Now since you're unable to read between the lines I'll make it simpler for you to understand. If you didn't noticed I used your statement as an example that if you can deal with it then so can others.

About the fence hopping. You see those Aetheryte camps? I want to jump over those fence. I'll let you know how it goes when they implement it, or you can help yourself and find out.

Originally Posted by Nox

the interview doesn't specifically say we wont be able to jump over anything though. all we know is that we wont be able to evade anything with jump. I suppose a clarification from the devs would be nice.

I got that they where just using evation as an example, and the fact that they said 'any' involves all aspects of gameplay.
Would love to be proven wrong though.

Originally Posted by Keres

An easier solution would be "deal with it," IMO.

Best post I've read this week! LOL.

I don't see where all this Dragoon hate is coming from. Jumping is part of our tradition.