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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    FL is 72 players. It cannot and will never be balanced. Just accept this fact that FL is casual chaos and you might have fun with the mode.
    That is simply not true, frontline pre 6.1 was balanced maybe aside RDM that was bad, however if you we're really good at it you could pull some decent damage and be really useful. Simply untrue.
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  2. #22
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by maximesan514 View Post
    That is simply not true, frontline pre 6.1 was balanced maybe aside RDM that was bad, however if you we're really good at it you could pull some decent damage and be really useful. Simply untrue.
    It wasn't even remotely balanced...FL has never been balanced. The closest it ever got to being "balanced" was when they had smaller versions of it with 8v8v8 when it couldn't find 72 players.

    FL is as casual mode as it gets. Stop taking it so seriously.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    It wasn't even remotely balanced...FL has never been balanced. The closest it ever got to being "balanced" was when they had smaller versions of it with 8v8v8 when it couldn't find 72 players.

    FL is as casual mode as it gets. Stop taking it so seriously.
    You literally post in every single post challenging everybody opinion on anything and everything, if you typed less and play the game you could actually have factual output on the game.

    Stop typing and play the game, seriously.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kansene View Post
    Nothing like 6 people hitting a ninja for a full minute and barely making a dent in their health, only for them to automatically escape because ninja.

    Or accidentally clipping a SAM you didn't notice with an AoE and instantly dying for it.

    FL has absolutely massive issues, and tbh most of it boils down to 3 factors imo:

    - CC is way too rampant, and needs diminishing returns in there.

    - 60% DR for all melee is a sloppy fix, they should apply different values based on individual jobs, and not just melee. DNC gets zero DR and is more of a melee job than NIN is.

    - instant kill LBs do not belong in PvP imo, in any mode. Getting an instant death sentence and losing your battle high because of accidental clipping or daring to go below 50% health invariably makes it feel like your death wasn't earned by the opponent.
    unless it was a 1v1 with the ninja then well you are signing onto your own death at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maximesan514 View Post
    You literally post in every single post challenging everybody opinion on anything and everything, if you typed less and play the game you could actually have factual output on the game.

    Stop typing and play the game, seriously.
    ignore him, dude is a gremlin.
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  6. #26
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by maximesan514 View Post
    You literally post in every single post challenging everybody opinion on anything and everything, if you typed less and play the game you could actually have factual output on the game.

    Stop typing and play the game, seriously.
    I got to 1k+ crystal score 3 seasons in a row. I do play the game and probably much better than you do lol.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I got to 1k+ crystal score 3 seasons in a row. I do play the game and probably much better than you do lol.
    My dad hit harder than yours
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by maximesan514 View Post
    My dad hit harder than yours
    Prove it, show your dads achievos~
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    If there was a downvote button I'd be pressing it.

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    FL is 72 players. It cannot and will never be balanced. Just accept this fact that FL is casual chaos and you might have fun with the mode.
    Have you played rival wings? They've already made FL work with 1 team vs. 1 team and it is the most balanced thing you can do but they seem intent on letting it die since it is not included in the roulette. Currently, this 1v1v1 is not working as most times one team is always going to get ganked regardless of where they are in points. It's not fun sitting on 0/800 in SR when they other teams have 400+ just because they kept picking on you and bad node spawns. It's also not fun when you are in the lead and suddenly one team decides to just yolo you for the rest of the match while the other team just chills and takes the win from you.
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  10. #30
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Have you played rival wings? They've already made FL work with 1 team vs. 1 team and it is the most balanced thing you can do but they seem intent on letting it die since it is not included in the roulette. Currently, this 1v1v1 is not working as most times one team is always going to get ganked regardless of where they are in points. It's not fun sitting on 0/800 in SR when they other teams have 400+ just because they kept picking on you and bad node spawns. It's also not fun when you are in the lead and suddenly one team decides to just yolo you for the rest of the match while the other team just chills and takes the win from you.
    Rival wings is not frontlines, that's why its in its own category and its "balance" is due to the moba style gameplay.
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